No. This game is clearly not a pay to win game.
Ok. Good to know.
So there are only two explanations I have for my anonymous case which I am not allowed to explain in detail here:
1. Support doesn't care about it.
2. Support has done something, but that "something" was just an unfriendly message to the respective user and now his airlines can keep the cash and go on like this.
It's just good to know, because if thats reality, cheating may pay off in this game.
There are more possible explanations. You may want to stop your interpretation of procedures you are not involved in.
When did you inform support about possible cheating? The support team might be busy with other cases / stuff and did not have time yet to follow up your "case" (if it is a case). Let them do their job and give them the time they need. Your "case" is not the only one.
You may want to stop your interpretation of procedures you are not involved in.
It's a free world and I may interprete whats happening (or not) in whichever way I want. I voiced my opinion without being rude or offensive.
sure you may do what you like. Just think a bit ahead before you write something which is not really constructive.
You have received already answers from 2 team members which should indicate you that the support is dealing with your problem. Just don't stress them as they have other topics and perhaps just not found the time for you.
To be patient is sometimes better... just my 2 cents.
Let’s keep it friendly guys.
Support are usually very busy, and a couple of weeks backlog isn’t unusual.
I have drawn this matter to the attention of the support team again, and I can hopefully get back to you in a couple of days. Or support will.
Have a nice day 
Let's keep it friendly guys.
Support are usually very busy, and a couple of weeks backlog isn’t unusual.
I have drawn this matter to the attention of the support team again, and I can hopefully get back to you in a couple of days. Or support will.
Have a nice day
Thank you. I hadn't thought that there could be a couple of weeks backlog at all. It's kind of frustrating when you play on a temporary server and your opponents do something that can't be right (I know...it's under investigation...we'll see if there maybe was a legitimate reason for these back and forward stock sales) and they in fact get away with it because it may take weeks to do something about it. In those weeks, they compete against my airline, they order whole bunches of planes which makes my airline wait longer for orders, etc... It is a bad feeling when you see such transactions, then you see their 80+ widebody fleet (on a server that started in November) and then you start thinking of how they do it.
Again, thanks for looking into it. Appreciate it.
In those weeks, they compete against my airline, they order whole bunches of planes which makes my airline wait longer for orders, etc...
Orders of another company do not make you wait longer for your planes.
Orders of another company do not make you wait longer for your planes.
Really? I thought that my waiting time for a new plane depends on how many orders the manufacturer currenty has. If I place an order and at the time there's 5 other planes waiting to be produced, mine will queue up behind them.
No. That is wrong. You have your own order book.
If support finds the airlines were guilty of illegal behavior the benefits they have gained by it will be taken away from them.
Wait, so they are buying shares for 100AS$ and then selling them back to them for 110AS$ to make money?
If support finds the airlines were guilty of illegal behavior the benefits they have gained by it will be taken away from them.
Also when this money has been used for leasing new aircraft?
If/when an airline is found guilty and it is decided that a financial punishment is needed, this will usually be a sum of money based on scale of cheating, how long they have been cheating for, and what economical advantage it has given that player. If the scale is bigger than the bank account (ie aircraft leased) the player will likely be given time to scale back of his own accord if possible to pay the debt.
If/when an airline is found guilty and it is decided that a financial punishment is needed, this will usually be a sum of money based on scale of cheating, how long they have been cheating for, and what economical advantage it has given that player. If the scale is bigger than the bank account (ie aircraft leased) the player will likely be given time to scale back of his own accord if possible to pay the debt.
Wouldn't it just be simplest to install the punishment as a debt that accumulates interest in case the offending player does not have the cash ?
I believe has also be done in the past
Hello, I have made screenshots of such a stock trading, I also send it to the support. Is there any possibility to speed up the work of the Support? The airlines which has benefited from this Cheating, are going to take over the market. Gameworld: Otto
Guys you are going to have to be patient. As we all know support is constantly stretched. It will happen when it happens if found to be cheating. All I'm going to point out is the larger they get the further they have to fall
If/when an airline is found guilty and it is decided that a financial punishment is needed, this will usually be a sum of money based on scale of cheating, how long they have been cheating for, and what economical advantage it has given that player. If the scale is bigger than the bank account (ie aircraft leased) the player will likely be given time to scale back of his own accord if possible to pay the debt.
I thought about it and if you deal with it this way, a particular cheating model becomes quite attractive. I'm not saying anyone has ever cheated this way, because I do not want to have my comments deleted.
1. We all know that the starting cash amount is essential. If I could get 20 million AS$ at the very beginning instead of 10, that would be a huge advantage, especially on new servers. Every extra AS$ buys (leases) new planes which improve your hub and make more money.
2. So lets say I want to start on a new server. Lets call my airline "Airline A". I get 10 million in cash to buy planes. But thats too slow for me. So - via multiple accounts - I set up Airline B, Airline C, Airline D, Airline E, Airline F and Airline G somewhere else in the world. I build them and let them grow until their equity exceeds 20 million and they become eligible for stock trading.
3. An then, I have to coordinate it well:
- Airline G goes IPO, Airline A buys as much stock of Airline G as possible.
- Airlines B, C, D, E and F cancel all their leases and stack up cash in their accounts.
- Then I let Airlines B, C, D, E, F buy Airline G stock from Airline A for the maximum allowed price and sell it back instantly for the minimum price, resulting in a nice "profit" for Airline A on every transaction. After I've squeezed all (or most) cash out of B, C, D, E and F, Airline A should have around 100 million extra cash.
- Then I quickly liquidate Airlines B to G so the stock trades disappear from the database.
- Result: Airline A is left with 100 million extra cash and happily goes shopping for new aircraft.
The point is: This whole thing can happen in one night. If it is discovered, from what I understand, it will take at least days if not weeks until it has consequences (which I understand, since support cannot handle all these matters instantly). Meanwhile, the 100 million get invested in a fleet of A350s or whatever. And IF at all it is discovered later, apparently Airline A would be granted a "grace period" to repay the EUR 100 million. They may keep their whole fleet and continue making big bucks. So in the worst case for Airline A, the 100 million are a huge loan which you cannot get legally. And in their best case, the 100 million are theirs forever.
Auch wenn die Airline gelöscht wird, die Transaktionen sind im Hintergrund immer noch nachverfolgbar. Die gehen nicht einfach so verloren.
A question was asked and an answer was given based on experience, if you don't want an answer based on that I don't know what you want. I am number 1 not suggesting anyone has cheated, and number 2 I am suggesting how it has happened in the past based on experience.
Lets be very clear, if you get reported you deserve the opportunity to be investigated properly, you guys all seem to want a rash decision to be made, I am telling you that will not happen. By taking time and investigating not only do you make sure whatever punishment is fair, you also can learn how people are bending the rules, and can build mechanisms to prevent it happening again. This is definitely not a shoot now, ask questions later scenario.
@cp2125 - The suggested scenario could not happen overnight, firstly the player would have to build up an airline to be able to trade on the stock market, and secondly, have to buy credits to also do this.
The point is really this; There IS a process that is followed in every case. This process MUST be followed as to insure fairness. In terms of punishments they are usually fitting, but it is for support to decide, not for you. Yes its frustrating that it can take some time, but let the process happen. Complaining on here will generally do two things....slow things down because support staff are on here instead of dealing with tickets, and also add further complications to any reports.
