When I design a new cabin using the cabin configuration tool, how am I to interpret the rating graphs ?
Example: If 4500 km has two bars, 5500 km has two bars and 6500km has one bar
Does this mean that for any distance over 5500 km I get a rating of one bar, or any distance over 6500 km gets one bar ?
Hi,
I would say you get 2 bars up to 5500km and one bar up to 6500km. It is possible that these seats get a lower rating on longer routes.
Create a cabin configuration for a wide body that has a longer radius. Use the same seat and check the rating. It will show you the rating for longer distances ;-)
Have a nice weekend,
Jan
Do you have any source, or is it your opinion ?
I would say ...
Hi,
I try to choose my words carefully ;-)
So no, I have no source. That is also why I suggested to create a temporary cabin configuration for an airplane with a range of more than 6500km. It will show you the rating of the seat you plan to use over longer distances.
Jan
one green bar is what passengers expect from you (comfort)
if give them 2 or 3 green bars its dream
example:
you Rent a car BMW
First time you got normal setting car - and you pleased
next time you got car with leather seats and full gear at the same price - you are delighted
If you get red bars and constantly use that seats
you will have few problems
1. lower booking
2. You'll be punished with ###.###AS$ from AS
3. And in extreme situations company will be deleted form AS
Regarding points 2 and 3, they refer to the use of terrible seats during server start.
If you operate a 12000km route and get a red bar, no one will penalize you. Nor will anyone book that flight (in significant numbers)
No one seems to have understood the original question, so I’ll try to rephrase it more carefully.
The question was about the tresholds between the bars, not the the meaning of bars per se. Ie I might as well talked about 4 or 5 bars instead of 1 or 2 bars.
The way I read the screen, gives room for two interpretations of the graph.
ie.
If 5500 km has 4 bars, and 6500 km has three bars, how many bars a flight gets if it is 5700 km in length. Four or three ?
Hi,
if nobody understands you, it is always a good idea to question yourself ;-)
If the seat has a rating of 60+, it will get 4 green bars.
If the seat has a rating of 40+, it will get 3 green bars.
I don't think there is a fixed distance where the rating drops from 60 (4 bars) to 40 (3 bars).
Compare it with the product rating of a flight. On the flight detail page it shows for example 3 green bars. When you check the ORS you see the same three green bars. But when you hover the mouse over these green bars, it tells you the exact rating. Could be 42, could be 57.
Or look at the on-board service. You may add a newspaper and still get the same number of bars. Does that mean passengers don't care about that free newspaper ? No, it means the rating only went up by a small degree... not enough to reach tne next green bar.
At least, that's how I tihnk it works.
Jan
you are correct in assuming, that the bars are only the rounded value (based on a 20 point system). There is a continous function behind it describing the exact value for an exact distance.
OK Now I got it ;-)
On a related issue, does anyone know how the individual flight segment ratings transform into overall connection rating.
eg, on Aspern do a search for EWR to SFO. The very first flight AJA 414 has two values, one with the flight and another for the overall connection (I assume this is the one that is actually used when allocating bookings).
The first one has a value of 47, the next one 90. Since this is a single flight how can they be different ?
And then if you scroll down till the first connection AM21/CDN330, AM21 has a rating of 39, CDN330 has a rating of 63. Together thay have a rating of 67. How is this formed ?
the rating for a leg only contains the rating for the particular flight, so seating, service, pricing, etc.
The overall rating includes airline image.
The second (lower) rating is important for O/D pax. The first rating is important for connecting pax, plus a total travel time factor.
You can easily check this yourself, by doing ORS search for two individual flights e.g. A to B and B to C, and then for connection A to C. You will see that on the A to C the first ratings of A to B and B to C flights will be displayed for these flights, and on the bottom your final connection rating that includes trip duration factor.
Hi,
the first rating is the overall product rating: the balance of price against on-board service, seats, terminals and airline image. The second rating is the overall ORS rating. It is indeed the one that counts, and it consists of the product rating * speed factor.
The overall rating for a connecting flight is supposed to be based on the ratings of the two connecting flights plus a speed factor over the whole trip (including transfer time). But there is more to it... I have found flights from my airline that have higher individual product ratings, the same individual 99 rating, shorter overall travel time... and yet had a slightly lower overall ORS rating.
Jan
@Yukawa
I don't think airline image has anything to do with the "jump" from ORS product rating to ORS overall rating.
And how do you know my assumption about seat ratings is correct ?
@sobelair: I never used the word “to know” - and by deduction. 
Haha... I wondered if you somewhere found some factual information. You stated very matter of factly that I was correct, while I only guess.
So we both assume that the seat rating is more specific than the simple green bars we see ;-)
Enjoy the weekend,
Jan