My demand is too low and I wonder if the situation can be saved...
My hub is in TLV and I opened a route from TLV to MRS.
I'm using for this route:
<p><span style="margin:0px;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://gatow.airlinesim.aero/app/fleets/aircraft/id/67753'>4X-ABK</a> / <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://gatow.airlinesim.aero/action/enterprise/aircraftsType?id=2000'>Airbus Industrie A319-100 light</a></span></p>
<p>And there is one airline that have 100% market share from TLV to MRS.</p>
I tried to lower the price to lure more passenger, but my load is around 3%-7%.
I don't even know if my cabin configuration is satisfying but I tried to make it comfort and desired.
Same for my on-board service.
I even have more routes that there is no one operating it except of me (TLV to MLA) and still don't have a good demand.
I attached some pictures that you could see my configurations and the other airline prices.
Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong and if there a chance to gain more demand?
BTW, can passengers spread an airline to other potential passengers and thus to gain more demand? (assuming that the airline image\route\service is good)
Your cabin configuration for Business Class (C Class) leaves a lot to be desired. For good ratings, you should at least go with Recliner Shorthaul, and maybe even something higher than that. The services look borderline okay. They should probably be better for that long of a route.
Now for the rest of the situation... first, don't get upset if you don't make a profitable airline first time out. I've been playing this simulation for about three years, and I have finally made a profitable airline... for now. It's lasted 3 months.
Connections, connections, connections. That's one of the big keys to making a stable, profitable airline. Few people are going to want direct flights from MRS to TLV (or TLV to MRS) and that's it. Most will want to go from MRS to, say, Delhi, or Peking. Most people, when they travel, have to take at least two planes to get where they are going. Providing good connecting flights is a must for a sustainable airline.
Start small. TLV to MRS is a long flight. Most successful airlines start out running flights within 1500km. The planes are cheap, the prices can be good, and it doesn't take forever to get money back. Don't start with long haul flights, start with regional flights first. Learn the system. Again, don't be afraid of failure. I went through probably 20 different airlines before I got mine working right.
* Check out YouTube. There's a series of videos someone did on how to start up an airline on AS.
* Check out the forums. Don't just do a search, but actually go through the pages of the forum and read the posts, especially Community Support. There is a LOT of good information there.
* Even though it's a work in progress, check out the Wiki for AS. There are some missing pages, but there are some general guides that can describe some of the basics if you can't find it on the forums.
OK so you are third in the ORS with 32/83 rating. The first and second one is 64/99. This is for Y.
For C class you have 10/99 while the other airline has 66/99. For O/D, 10/99 is fine as it is on equal standing with competitor's 66/99.
There are 2397 daily connections, out of which 551 are bookable in Y (48-72 hours in advance) and 396 are bookable in C.
This number roughly doubles for time window 24-48 hours.
While being on top of the ORS you will get the highest proportion of pax, it will not give you the most pax. You will just get proportionally higher share than other 2397 connections.
Also, I would suggest you go to flightstats and start running flights to destinations that are most frequently displayed there.
Adding to what caithes said: Your C class leaves a lot to be desired, BUT
your positive image by using new planes gives you about 10 point boost. Also, your price reduction, gives you substantial boost. Without that, your C rating would be in upper 60s or lower 70s.
OK so you are third in the ORS with 32/83 rating. The first and second one is 64/99. This is for Y.
For C class you have 10/99 while the other airline has 66/99. For O/D, 10/99 is fine as it is on equal standing with competitor's 66/99.
There are 2397 daily connections, out of which 551 are bookable in Y (48-72 hours in advance) and 396 are bookable in C.
This number roughly doubles for time window 24-48 hours.
While being on top of the ORS you will get the highest proportion of pax, it will not give you the most pax. You will just get proportionally higher share than other 2397 connections.
Also, I would suggest you go to flightstats and start running flights to destinations that are most frequently displayed there.
How did you get these figures? I cant find them anywhere in the server. I myself am having the same trouble, and I have set up my transfer times perfectly for connections, high in-flight services, low prices, high quality seats, and new planes. So confused!
I got he info form Online Reservation System, the heart of Airlinesim demand. Click on the world with "i" Icon in the top menu, then "Online Reservation System".
Like others said, it’s all about connections in this simulation. Build a network and let your flights depart in waves in order to give pax the best connections. Domestic is always a good way to start! I always use tools like flightstats to figure out the most frequent routes to/from the chosen hub airport.
Yes I know where and what the ors is. But everyone keeps talking about certain numbers like 66/99, where do you find that? And where is this flightstat tool everyone is talking about? I assume it’s the statistics bar but that shows nothing about choosing a Hub or not, just what airports or competitors have the most amount of passengers
Yes I know where and what the ors is. But everyone keeps talking about certain numbers like 66/99, where do you find that? And where is this flightstat tool everyone is talking about? I assume it's the statistics bar but that shows nothing about choosing a Hub or not, just what airports or competitors have the most amount of passengers
The ORS presents itself as 10 boxes, five can be red with the other five grey, or five can be green with the other five grey; but if you hold the mouse over the picture, you’ll get a much more precise number from -100 to +100. If a flight has a 4-bar rating, then the number is somewhere between 60-80.
Flightstats.com is a website that gives real-world flight data, its a good research resource, but there are many out there.
To detail a little bit about the ORS and what Rubio said...
When you go to the Online Reservation System and put in a route you are flying, locate your flight on the list and look at the little green bars on the right hand side. Each flight is going to have two ratings. If you hover the mouse over the bars, you will get the rating of the flight. When most people say "I have a 99 ORS rating on this route", they are referring to the second (bottom) rating in the ORS flight information.
The ORS rating is important, but it isn't as simple as "highest ORS score gets the most passengers". You'll find that 99 rating flights routinely lose passengers to flights in the 60-90 range simply because passengers don't like to sit around an airport for 7 hours waiting for a connecting flight. They want to get going.
The ORS rating is important, but it isn't as simple as "highest ORS score gets the most passengers". You'll find that 99 rating flights routinely lose passengers to flights in the 60-90 range simply because passengers don't like to sit around an airport for 7 hours waiting for a connecting flight. They want to get going.
For connecting flights - yea.
For direct demand (O/D) - (pax willing to fly from A to B, without connection), all-same-rating are created equal, so flight of company A and flight of company B will get same relative quantity of passengers.
ahhh, awesome thanks guys! So one more question. At Las Vegas, the min. transfer time is 1:30, this means ive gotta wait that amount of time between flights if I wanted to connect to another flight to another location right?
Ex. las-sea, gets in at 0930, connecting flight leaves at 11:00, or can it be sooner than that? Such, 10:30 for example? Because this is how I have my flights set up right now so that passengers can connect 2 times a day, but I am doing worse than ever, especially on the B737-700 BGW but not on the ERJ-190 which are filling up with the same transfer gap, seats, and service profile.
If a flight gets in at 09:30, a passenger on that flight cannot connect to another flight that leaves before 11:00, if the transfer time is 1 hour, 30 minutes. The transfer time is the same, no matter the airplane.
ok yeah, just what I thought. Dont understand how my ratings are so low than. New planes, Comfort seats with 3" pitch, nearly $9.00 per. person in economy, and $40 per. person in Business and with good transfer times to places where every flight is full for every carrier. Any ideas of why my rating are so low? Even have max flight attendants.
If you are talking about the flight that is in your original post, I did answer before. The "Comfort" seats are definitely inadequate for business class. You should be looking at Recliner and Lay Flat selections. That is hindering your rating right there. Also, make sure you check the ratings of your service for specific distances. You can spend a lot of money on service and not have good ratings. Easiest way to high ratings is to add a second meal. Big boost right there.
If it's a different route, will need more information.
I will try to work with the stuff that you gave me :)
One more question tho and be patient please. ^^
By saying 'connection' do you actually saying interlining? - if not how I connect flights? is there a special thing I need to to or just A--> B --> C ?
By saying 'connection' do you actually saying interlining? - if not how I connect flights? is there a special thing I need to to or just A--> B --> C ?
By default, connections are enabled. You have to go into the settings to disable it to become a point-to-point only airline.
There’s a minimum connection time that’s specific to an airport that has connections enabled. There’s also a maximum connection time of 8 hours or 15 if you play on Devau. Your passengers won’t sit around an airport longer than those 8 hours.
If you have internal transfers enabled in game settings, your connections will be done automatically.PAX will arrive to your hub airport and will wait up to 8 hours for a connecting flight (to anywhere).