Hi all,
My route from ATH to LHR is only 50% full, however in the ORS I am on top!!!!
Airline below me has full PAX capacity.
I use 737-700 HGW(winglets) and the other one uses 737-700 BGW.
Is there something wrong????
Your competitor may be filling his aircraft with connection traffic. You might have the upper hand on LHR-ATH but what about JFK-ATH (via LHR)?
I have checked back with the ORS. Your airline has the same rating with your competitor, but you offer higher price which in turn passengers would go for the lower price with the same rating. Be in mind that your flight is on top because of your departure time since both airlines have 3-bar rating.
Another reason is that your competitor has lots of transferring passengers apart from the usual direct connection.
Guys thanks for you replies...
ATH-LHR is a very busy route and I think I would get the PAX to fill up the plane even without interlining.
Also for a fligth being on topo of another in the ORS that would mean that passenger would prefer this flight than the other, am i not correct?
I also think tht the time of flight makes no difference in AS at all.
Thanks,
Costas
Guys thanks for you replies...
ATH-LHR is a very busy route and I think I would get the PAX to fill up the plane even without interlining.
Also for a fligth being on topo of another in the ORS that would mean that passenger would prefer this flight than the other, am i not correct?
I also think tht the time of flight makes no difference in AS at all.
Thanks,
Costas
According to your statement, ATH-LHR is a busy route and so you do not need interlining as it will be fully filled up. So, what is the purpose of you posting this thread?
From your first post, you said that you can get your plane 50% filled up and so this clearly opposes to your statement above. As you do not have enough feeder, ATH-LHR is considered a slightly longer haul route which usually requires not only direct connection but also transfer pax. Your competitor is one of the biggest airline in Europe and therefore it can get lots and lots of transfer pax from any part of the world for this busy route.
For the ORS, you can observe that the flight is sorted by rating at first. Since both airlines have 3-bar rating, then they will just put it according to the departure time of each flight. There is an exception that if you have 4-bar rating, your flights will definitely be on top of all others' flights.
I hope this would help you to understand how ORS works. :)
According to your statement, ATH-LHR is a busy route and so you do not need interlining as it will be fully filled up. So, what is the purpose of you posting this thread?
From your first post, you said that you can get your plane 50% filled up and so this clearly opposes to your statement above. As you do not have enough feeder, ATH-LHR is considered a slightly longer haul route which usually requires not only direct connection but also transfer pax. Your competitor is one of the biggest airline in Europe and therefore it can get lots and lots of transfer pax from any part of the world for this busy route.
For the ORS, you can observe that the flight is sorted by rating at first. Since both airlines have 3-bar rating, then they will just put it according to the departure time of each flight. There is an exception that if you have 4-bar rating, your flights will definitely be on top of all others' flights.
I hope this would help you to understand how ORS works. :)
Ah! I didnt know this... that the flights are sorted based on time if they have similar rating... Now this makes sense!!!
I have checked back with the ORS. Your airline has the same rating with your competitor, but you offer higher price which in turn passengers would go for the lower price with the same rating. Be in mind that your flight is on top because of your departure time since both airlines have 3-bar rating.
Another reason is that your competitor has lots of transferring passengers apart from the usual direct connection.
Hi Peter,
I am sorry, but that is not how it works.
Our virtual passengers do not look at the price. Just like they don't look at the seats, the on-board service, staff mood and whatever. Our virtual passengers put everything in the balance... everything they get on one side, the price on the other side. The result of this "value for money check" is the ORS rating. So the price is already taken into account in the ORS rating.
The bars only give an indication. Hover your mouse over the bars to get the exact rating. And it is the bottom line that counts. Players who fly the same route with turboprops and jets will know that the same basic rating (with the same seats and service) will result in different final ORS ratings. Where the turboprop gets a final rating of 92, the jet will have a final rating of 99. And a yet faster wide body will have a final rating of 100. And all three will show 5 green bars ;-)
It is however true that flights are shown in chronological order if they have the same rating. It is also true that the competing airline may have more transfer passengers and thus find it easier to fill his planes. Even with a lower ORS rating.
Besides, a higher rating does not mean you get all the passengers. It means you get a (slightly) bigger share of the passengers. And if there are more passengers than available seats, the passengers will fly at any price. As long as the rating is higher than 0.
Enjoy the weekend,
Jan
Hi Peter,
I am sorry, but that is not how it works.
Our virtual passengers do not look at the price. Just like they don't look at the seats, the on-board service, staff mood and whatever. Our virtual passengers put everything in the balance... everything they get on one side, the price on the other side. The result of this "value for money check" is the ORS rating. So the price is already taken into account in the ORS rating.
The bars only give an indication. Hover your mouse over the bars to get the exact rating. And it is the bottom line that counts. Players who fly the same route with turboprops and jets will know that the same basic rating (with the same seats and service) will result in different final ORS ratings. Where the turboprop gets a final rating of 92, the jet will have a final rating of 99. And a yet faster wide body will have a final rating of 100. And all three will show 5 green bars ;-)
It is however true that flights are shown in chronological order if they have the same rating. It is also true that the competing airline may have more transfer passengers and thus find it easier to fill his planes. Even with a lower ORS rating.
Besides, a higher rating does not mean you get all the passengers. It means you get a (slightly) bigger share of the passengers. And if there are more passengers than available seats, the passengers will fly at any price. As long as the rating is higher than 0.
Enjoy the weekend,
Jan
Yup...I agree with your statement. Some airlines do offer standard / economy seats with absolutely low price to achieve higher or even 5-bar rating. Sometimes, this seems to be like a kind of price dumping because premium airlines charge premium price with premium services and seats but only get a maximum of 4-bar rating. Premium airlines cannot charge lower price due to profit margin. So, passengers would definitely go for the 5-bar rating flights with absolutely low price.