Hi,
the question remains: how do you create a holding with a balance value of 10 million and end up with a balance value of 2400 million after less than one week.
Jan
You don’t 
except of foreign capital - but you won’t survive that …
Hi
here´s a little example
AS sometimes offers 747-400 at a price of 36.600.000 AS$
To buy one you need a down payment of 1,830,000 AS$, the rest will come from the AS bank, so you could basically buy 5 of those.
If you now find other players that will buy these planes you will get 36.600.000+9.150.000 (5% of list price)=45.750.000 for each plane,
pay back the loan and a little interest rate you will have a profit of 9 million per plane, overall 45 Million.
Your bank account would now stand at 55 million after at least 2 hours.
Ok, 5,5 times your original balance after two hours is the absolute extrem and can´t really be done, but you´ll get the idea.
Like twice your money in lets say half a day is something thet can be done, on a server with lots of demand for older cheaper planes and only a few other traders.
Days - 0 - 0,5 - 1 - 1,5 - 2 - 2,5 - 3 - 3,5 - 4
Balance - 10 - 20 - 40 - 80 - 160 - 320 - 640 - 1280 - 2560
I admit that I don´t realy think that it can be done, too many other traders on the new servers, not enough demand for older planes on the older servers, but in theory it´s possible,
in theory you can make those 2400 million in less then half a day.
cheers
mhk
Hm…
So it can be done. You only have to buy and sell at least 26 jumbo’s in a couple of days. Or a hundred 73G’s 
Thanks for enlightening me.
Jan
True you got it done mhk you have got like a thousand companies and you add one a day!! maybe i dont play this game very well but this sounds like im being cheated for my money!! just saying…
There is one point - you have to find someone buying these aircrafts - and using additional airlines only for buying is not allowed and may result into deletion of the account
Hi,
one of our alliance members has an airline in Australia, and he was not amused when MHK’s airline grew from nothing to 200 planes in less than one week. I believe he used the buy/sell and don’t repay the loan technic. But to be honest, there was no rule against it. And according to AS it wasn’t cheating, although… they have never corrected the software so fast (as this time) during the two years that I play this game 
Jan
But it was a bug and bugusing isn’t allowed at all - so we (are still) requesting of paying now unsecured loans back
There are accounts or set up airlines with planes in their fleets that didn’t do a single flight, perhaps the problem is there… These accounts shouldn’t be there for too long in my opinion and im talking about pearls as i started there from the beginning and restarted my virtual airline a couple of times and i do look a lot into it and i find these accounts suspicious. im just saying…
Yep, but we have some log files and can take a look at this even if these accounts are deleted already.
Your wrong there, I never had an unsecured loan, I bought planes and sold them and I repaid the loan everytime.
There is a misunderstanding that the new rule wich automatically repays the loans has changed anything substancial,
it´s still possible to build up rather large fleets in a matter of days, all you need is a server with demand for cheap planes
like pearl or meigs, maybe stapleton.
On said servers, if there’s such a high demand for certain airframes…
…how could someone possibly buy them cheap to sell them with a profit afterwards? I mean, if I want a 744 - just to stay with the example given - why would I want to wait until someone else buys it before I’d then buy it from him (for some additional bucks)?
To me that doesn’t make sense at all.
If this really works on a regular basis, then it’s the mechanism of the aircraft market to be blamed. The 1 hour bidding timeframe to be precisely.
Stretch the bidding timeframe (for bargain offers) and the aircraft will go for their true value.
I love the new market for what it primarily offers, but I think that it also ruined important parts of the game.
Hi,
okay, then you must have bought and sold a lot of planes in a couple of days. And I do mean a lot.
Mind you, I have defended your tactic in my previous post. But I also understand the reaction of my fellow alliance member. It takes him two months of hard work to build up a fleet of 80 planes, and out of nowhere comes this new airline that runs a fleet of 200 planes after a couple of days. It feels unfair and if you do not understand these feelings, you lack empathy.
And apparently it is still possible to increase the value of a new airline from 10 million to 2400 million in a couple of days. Stating that this airline will go bankrupt sounds like hushing things. Or an attempt to hide the fact that it should simply not be possible to grow from 10 million to 2400 million in less than one week. So… the second hand market still needs fine tuning.
@SK: a bug becomes a bug when it is declared to be a bug. Before that, it is a feature. If a computer game allows you to do something, it is allowed until it is declared illegal (as you did). But basically… if something is not allowed by the rules of the game, it should not be possible to perform that action. It is a good thing AS corrected that error as soon as they discovered it.
Jan
It is not that easy - a bug is something that happenes or not happenes but should not happen or happen … and that you can not gain loans without securities in the function for this but via buying planes and selling them is nothing wich has to be declared as a bug - it is obvious at all
Unfortunately players like MHK have ruined how the game is meant to be played.
That’s no valid discussion! It is not him, it was a error in the development and lag of testing the possible problem. It was not him - so name them all or none!
Hi,
allow me to repeat what I have already suggested before: if you lease a plane on the second hand market, you should lease it from the owner.
As long as you can put up a plane "for sale only" and players can lease it with AS financing, you are inviting people to organise quick-profit-schemes.
Jan
It is still a problem and this player has taken advantage of said problem and ruined the way in which the game is meant to be played. If he wants to get into trading than there are plenty of trading games out there.
I’m just saying it is clear he has no respect for other users and players, last I checked we all PAID to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Anyone affected by this rort should be refunded.
Yes, all paid the same - he also - so why punishing only him for something which was legal and done by others too?