Today we are astonished by the lost of 4 Earth Stand members. We have conducted an initial internal investigation, and disappointingly found there are 2 very different scenarios for the cease of our 4 members. The cease of Cathay Star is confirmed by AS Team was not deleted for cheating, while Dream Wings, Rorygardens and Serendipity Air being questioned for multi accounts.
Earth Stand prohibit its players using mulit accounts following AS policy, but we would doubt the process of making a judgement whether a player involve such practice. At this moment, we would like to ask AS Team to provide evidances of multi accounts using, as well as investigate how Cathay Star was deleted while the player is actually login on the auction page when suddenly return an error message, before return to homepage finding his holding has being deleted. The fact that all involved companies being deleted almost the same time (within 2 hours) and without communicate with players beforehand, raises concern for improper judgement and handling of suspect multi accounts using, and possible mistakenly delete others.
All Earth Stand members will keep contact with players involved, as well as communicate with AS Team and publish further information as they become available.
Two accounts were using the same credit card and two accounts shared the same IP within minutes, using the 2nd account to reserve aircraft when the price in the auction was to high.
I must add that I personally experienced a few times that MD80s aircraft being bought instantly by some new companies. This happens in a bidding battle with someone else. You just can’t explain why a noob is so intereted in MD series.
And it also explains why you people got a fleet of cheap aircrafts - because when parent don’t have enough money, you just use a puppet company to hold it. And only release when you got money.
So, now it serves you right for being caught red-handed.
I must add that I personally experienced a few times that MD80s aircraft being bought instantly by some new companies. This happens in a bidding battle with someone else. You just can't explain why a noob is so intereted in MD series.
And it also explains why you people got a fleet of cheap aircrafts - because when parent don’t have enough money, you just use a puppet company to hold it. And only release when you got money.
So, now it serves you right for being caught red-handed.
I agree. And ES member Serenpidity has admitted the violation of using multi accounts including Leety. But actually AS deleted Rorygardens and Leety at the same time. Can you explain this? Because as I have investigated, Leety is the account of Serenpidity but not Rorygardens.
ES needs to hire a publicist for damage control at this point. I was always weary of this alliance prior, but you guys have to understand this doesn’t look good for you…
Now isn't it the case for everyone who created threads explaining and defending ES strategies to start apologizing ? Some of us have pointed out that the growing within this alliance is not something real.
Im not sure if it is related but there is a new airline set up "Cathay Dream Rorygardens Star Wings" ie. Cathay Star, Dream Wings and Rorygardens airline?
The holding company...Earth Stand Stand...
Personally I don't think Earth Stand don't have a leg to stand on now that it has been discovered that at least one of it's airlines has been found to be cheating.
I'd be the last to compliment AS on dealing with these things but I am glad that quick action has been taken and explanations given that cannot be justified.
The Earth Stand should be deleted all together for ruining other players experience of the game. Good that the Team is finally taking some action.
I think you should not make general statements about ES members, not all of them are using that strategy and even less cheating. In my case, after 2 weeks I only have 10 A/C which means that ES also plays legal, but I got admitted in the alliance and I did not get any instructions to change my strategy or anything like that. We should be careful before accusing without proofs.
Personally I feel really ashamed that some members of my alliance were cheating, and I hope that the alliance would do something about it internally.
I think you should not make general statements about ES members, not all of them are using that strategy and even less cheating. In my case, after 2 weeks I only have 10 A/C which means that ES also plays legal, but I got admitted in the alliance and I did not get any instructions to change my strategy or anything like that. We should be careful before accusing without proofs.
Personally I feel really ashamed that some members of my alliance were cheating, and I hope that the alliance would do something about it internally.
I am entitled to my opinion and eveyone is entitled to disagree with it.
But fair enough - if you just joined ES and were not aware of their practices I then if I were you I would leave that alliance immediately.
So there have been some deletions and Earth Stand has a ruined reputation, but please keep in mind that there are a lot of fair players in this alliance too. So before writing something imagine on how you may feel in such a case!
So there have been some deletions and Earth Stand has a ruined reputation, but please keep in mind that there are a lot of fair players in this alliance too. So before writing something imagine on how you may feel in such a case!
That is why I wanted to make that point, making general opinions as statements is never good and fair. So we should try to avoid that, I am sure that AS management will do their best to clear cheating and misuse of the game, as it has been proven.
I am entitled to my opinion and eveyone is entitled to disagree with it.
But fair enough - if you just joined ES and were not aware of their practices I then if I were you I would leave that alliance immediately.
You can give opinions, but asking for a general action without any limitations is not an opinion, as well as making unfair judgements without knowledge on other players.
I have my reasons to join any alliance and if I chose ES is my problem, be sure that I will decide what is more convenient or not for my airline, I studied very carefully where to go, and I wanted to be with the best airlines, if they admitted me is not because I cheat, but because I fulfill their admission requirements, which are not that easy to fulfill. I am sure that cheating is not exclusive of a single alliance.
So please, try to enjoy the game and be happy that AS team is taking care of good practices.