I know that no direct flights are possible between USA and CUBA.
But does AS calculate demand for USA to CUBA via third country?
E.g. DFW - CUN - HAV ?
In other words, does it make sense to interline with a Cuban company, for interconnection in points such as Mexico, Caribbean, etc?
I see that ORS shows flights e.g. DFW - CUN - HAV (no direct flights of course)
But do these connecting flights get passengers originating from the US?
I know that no direct flights are possible between USA and CUBA.
But does AS calculate demand for USA to CUBA via third country?
E.g. DFW - CUN - HAV ?
In other words, does it make sense to interline with a Cuban company, for interconnection in points such as Mexico, Caribbean, etc?
I see that ORS shows flights e.g. DFW - CUN - HAV (no direct flights of course)
But do these connecting flights get passengers originating from the US?
In real life (changing as we speak, and excluding the AA MIA-HAV "charter" for Cubans visiting home), anyone flying this route would have to buy two seperate tickets. United won't even let you book a reward ticket on Air Canada YYZ-HAV...believe me I tried.
There are many more airlines than just AA operating between USA and Cuba… Even Air Europa is planning to operate a Twice Daily flight quite soon
There are many more airlines than just AA operating between USA and Cuba... Even Air Europa is planning to operate a Twice Daily flight quite soon
Rubio, I'm guessing you're latino...so I'll defer to you on this one. I just know about AA because I was shocked by AA and Havana on the same screen in MIA when I was looking for my flight to Houston.
/If you're not, its because Rubio means blond/fair
Rubio, I'm guessing you're latino...so I'll defer to you on this one. I just know about AA because I was shocked by AA and Havana on the same screen in MIA when I was looking for my flight to Houston.
/If you're not, its because Rubio means blond/fair
I am actually European, my native city is BTS ... but living in a Latino country
I prefer Rubio to Gringo
and correction: Air Eiropa wants 4 daily flights, not just 2
plus
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/15/cuba-usa-flights-idUSL1N0UU34220150115
In real life (changing as we speak, and excluding the AA MIA-HAV "charter" for Cubans visiting home), anyone flying this route would have to buy two seperate tickets. United won't even let you book a reward ticket on Air Canada YYZ-HAV...believe me I tried.
I have no problems booking using my Aeroplan points, but otherwise, neither Air Canada nor WestJet will let you book a ticket for US-Canada-Cuba.
The recent changes make it easier to obtain one of the ‘special licenses’ that US citizens require to visit Cuba, but have not eliminated the need to obtain a license to visit for one of 13 allowable reasons. Tourism is not on the list of allowable reasons.
The AS wiki claims that “traffic between the following countries is forbidden.” So I assume that the system won’t calculate demand via a third country either.
I am actually European, my native city is BTS ... but living in a Latino country
I prefer Rubio to Gringo
and correction: Air Eiropa wants 4 daily flights, not just 2
plus
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/15/cuba-usa-flights-idUSL1N0UU34220150115
I agree with your sentiment. When I travel to Latin America, I prefer to be known as Russian even though I speak American and Spanish. It makes everything easier!
Confirming some of the comments above...
Yesterday I tried if I could somehow do Cargo between Cuba and the US. I scheduled my Cuban airline on Riem to fly from various cargo-enabled airports in Cuba to Nassau Bahamas, with an onward connecting flight NAS-MIA. Can't do that for HAV-MIA as the distance via NAS is more than double the direct flight (same for transfer via Cancun), so I also set up some flights HAV-BIM and BIM-MIA (no cargo demand in BIM though).
ORS showed a possible connection from MIA to HAV via BIM, but only because MIA and BIM are connected via ground network (so, no flight connection BIM-MIA). The available flight connection via NAS was not shown at all in ORS. No actual cargo got booked on either route.
From this I would conclude that there's really no US-originating demand calculation for destinations in Cuba. I also conclude that the traffic restriction is not just geographically, but also related to nationality of the carrier, since my Cuban airline couldn't even get any booking of Cargo from MIA to NAS. Not sure if a Cuban cargo airline could transport cargo between 2 points within the US, but I guess that will also not be possible...
...But does AS calculate demand for USA to CUBA via third country?
E.g. DFW - CUN - HAV ?
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Hi George,
the game does not use passenger demand between origin and final destination of real life passengers. The only publicly available data are point to point data.
If in real life people fly from Miami to Cancun and then take a flight to Havana, the game will have passenger demand between Miami and Cancun, and passenger demand between Cancun and Havana.
So players who have an airline in Mexico will get bookings on flights like DFW-CUN-HAV.
They won't show up as transfer passengers though, just like (real) passengers from AMS who fly to BKK with Emirates, show up in the game as passengers between AMS and DXB, and passengers between DXB and BKK.
Jan
Edit: interlining with a Cuban airline won't help because the AS passengers don't fly from Cuba to Florida.