Ian, on eBay, if the winner does not pay, the product is offered, OFFERED, to the next highest bidder. Only as an offer! Or so it was a few years ago, when I experienced it once.
I don’t know about computers. I changed my vpn server, no idea if that hide it if one person is behind several users. Point was it takes no time.
Ian, I have never said so. That would be stupid. I do not think this is something personal.
Why must you repeatedly use the word "stupid"? That seems to me to be quite "personal" and also offensive to the people who have put so many hours of their time into creating this game.
To be honest with you airbusdriver the system of keeping the money until the auction has been done to reduce people cheating and bidding up. You have been very unlucky as to have this twice in row. I've been here a few years and have never heard of that happening once, let alone twice. For popular aircraft types in popular worlds there will be lots of new airlines starting up and shutting down fairly quickly.
You complain that players will have to have large ammount of money yet you admit yourself you have scheduled both aircraft already rather than cancelling a lease or contacting AS...therefore you somehow had enough money to cope with both...
Someone that has been around longer than me will confirm, but the number of players cheating if money is returned straight away vs those that get the aircraft despite not been top bidder will be very one sided.... so I think it really will be an argument of the lessor of two evils. The system has been how it is since I started playing and I do not see it as a bug
Well, I guess I forgot to press "post" on my reply yesterday.
Anyway, Ian, It does not have to be the lesser evil of the two. All ways of cheating should be eliminated. Here the team behind AS, decides that this is not something they want to stop, though it is indeed a way of cheating.
Obviously you don't have access to investigate my airline. If you did, you should have found that my account went deep into the red, and on top of that, I lost an aircraft due to failed payments. Is it a big issue? No. Is it annoying? yes, because this shouldn't be possible. That is the way I see it. It is my opinion. I think the team behind AS have made a mistake accepting this way of inflating prices of aircrafts. But then again, I have never said I was in anyway impressed with the team behind the game. On quite a lot of instances, I am utterly unimpressed by them and their actions. Or inactions rather. But that doesn't belong in this thread.
I guess I have to accept that cheating and inflating prices is both completely legal, and illegal in this game. Depending on how you decide to do it. As will I have to accept that the AS team don't really care too much about the players, but more about the money. It is a business, so I am not surprised.
I will spend my credits, and then I will call it it. I have been here for a number of years. Most of the time with a different username. But the attitude of the team towards this possible way of cheating, and quite a few other things, makes me leave. It was supposed to be fun. Even stated by SK, but with the AS team who seems to make that impossible by the lack of their actions on some quite big issues, I will spend my time and money elsewhere!
We’ve all felt the pain of taking the time to type out a decent reply then lost it in one way or the other 
No I don’t have any access more than you, I am simply a player with some experience and uab member. I’m sorry that you took the direct approach of scheduling the aircraft but in my past experience when people have Mis-bid then not scheduling and sending a polite message to support@, they may of been able to solve it.
I really don’t know about everyone else but I do not see how any cheating has been done. I admit yes that there is a possibility of cheating this way however it would have to be in the mind of an evil genius with nothing better to do with their lives (and I would hope a genius would spend their efforts on something other than this)
What you are proposing that someone is doing…
they have one username and airline to run as a real airline
setting up a 2nd username and airline
not having any activity on the 2nd airline
waiting for you to come online
guessing which aircraft you have bid on
bid on those aircraft
spend hours in a bidding war with you
after hours of bidding wars liquidate their company
screw you with an aircraft you agreed a bid on
I’m sorry I really really feel that is far fetched, although could happen.
You may feel that their are inactions and AS are not doing something however you have to remember the game that you play is programmed all by one person. He is most defiantly not getting rich off everyone. If there is an issue like the performance issues he spends far too much of his time fixing it for very little praise. For my money AS is the best game of its type out there, and the most accurate. Yes there are bugs in there however I think there are far more important issues than this which most of us would prefer Martin spend his time on than a tiny leak which may (but likely not) of been exploited.
Just my 2 cents
I think the team behind AS have made a mistake accepting this way of inflating prices of aircrafts.
Who tells, that we accept this. But this is more or less a debate on here about how this works or not. And I personaly do not see the problem you described as a large problem as this makes no sense. (If there is a multi-accounting for increasing the prices of the own aircraft, this is of course forbidden) - so if you feel this to be forbidden, please give more information to our support: reg of the aircraft, server ...
Ian, it wasn't a pain :-) Just myself forgetting to press the "post" button.... Not damage and no harm, and certainly no pain.....
I have said so before. I do not see this as a personal issue. I see a flaw in the system. That is of course my personal opinion. You stated it is the lesser of two evils. I say there has to be no lesser between these two situations. Just redo the auction. Problem solved.
I believe it was you, who said it was time consuming to establish an airline, with the single purpose of inflating the prices of aircrafts. As I wrote, it took me 94 seconds. Quite easy, and fast. That is if someone wants to inflate the price. I am more annoyed by how one rule is enforced to prevent cheating, and then nothing is done about this rule. Again, despite I lost an aircraft duet this situation, I will be able to make the payments at end of week. It is the concept of not being able to leave an auction, and bid elsewhere that annoys me. Unless of course you establish a new company that makes a bid, then above you original company's bid. Then you are save. But I do think that is cheating, well I consider it cheating.
"- screw you with an aircraft you agreed a bid on"
I also decide NOT to bid any longer on this aircraft, yet apparently I should not bid elsewhere, until this aircraft is auctioned off to another player, as I may at anytime, before the auction is over, end up with the aircraft anyway! Hardly reasonable, when I decide to NOT increase a bid.
Anyway, we just have to agree to disagree. I think all ways of cheating, whether in use or not, should be banned. Apparently you don't think so!
SK, as I wrote, I will spend my credit and then I will not be part of this game anymore. There are too many things that annoys me in here. Things that seems to annoy others as well.
In aviation, like anywhere else, no problems has ever been solved by inaction. Yet that seems to be the way to deal with quite a few issues here. I respect that it might be run by a single gentleman. I honestly thought there was a team behind the game, so hats off to whoever is behind it!
I have actually posted those data. I do not ask that you take any action. In fact I ask that you don't. No need to waste time on a person that is leaving once my credits are gone.
SK, as I wrote, I will spend my credit and then I will not be part of this game anymore. There are too many things that annoys me in here. Things that seems to annoy others as well.
As long as you don't report or tell what is annoying you, we can't help you. I personaly do not have a clue what you are talking about at the moment. There are at least two persons behind this all and if we can make it better for all player, we do take the time to hear on the player even if they will leave.
My suggestion to let the sheep be whole and the wolf fed as well:
Same auction rules (money locked while auction lasts) but if the winning bidder deletes the company, close the auction and return the aircraft to the pool, and return all auction deposits.
If somebody wants to bid on a different plane, when he is outbid, and has funds to make deposit on a different plane auction, let him make it. Then, if the first auction the highest bidder disappears, stop and close the auction back to pre-auction state. I think this happens when there is only one bidder, if one and only bidder is reset/eliminated the auction stops and reverts to pre-auction state.
So with multiple bidders, do the same. Reset to zero, and let the bidding start again.
As long as you don't report or tell what is annoying you, we can't help you. I personaly do not have a clue what you are talking about at the moment. There are at least two persons behind this all and if we can make it better for all player, we do take the time to hear on the player even if they will leave.
All due respect mate, but he's spent the last two pages detailing exactly his problem. The bidding system operates in such a way that someone can start up a company, bid on an auction in an attempt to drive up the price, and then liquidate the company before the auction completes, leaving the next highest person in the lurch - they having made the reasonable assumption that the person who bid higher than them actually intended on taking the aircraft.
I've seen this behaviour too on Ellinikon. Whether it's foul play or a problem arising from multiple new start-ups is somewhat beside the point - it's causing difficulties. Rubiohiguey's solution gets around most of them, at the cost of increasing the time it takes for someone to get the plane.