Flight amsterdam to sydnay with techincal stop...but where?

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Hi,

i'd like open a route between the airports but i need a technic stop.....but where?

If I schedule a via flight ams-del-syd i can't load passenger form del to syd.

Is there a solution?

thank in advance

Davide

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Hi Davide,

Your solution would be to use the via flight function however I think your effort will be a waste of time....

Basically AS (no matter if you put via or as 2 separate flights) will book the flights the same way so will be treated as two separate flights so...

AMS-DEL

DEL-SYD

As you have traffic rights on AMS-DEL you will have passengers booking this routing. You will also have passengers booking AMS-SYD which will be shown as connection, but these will be relatively few, and certainly not enough to make a profit. You will not have new passengers booking DEL-SYD as you do not have traffic rights. There is also no way in AS to say "do not allow AMS-DEL passengers to book this flight".

Others may have a solution but I fear you are wasting your time

Thanks

Ian

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hi.

thank's for reply...i've see waht happen in real life, there is no flight with techincal stop froma ams to syd but tw separate flights with different company..I'should use the IL partners

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You can use a one bar (or less!) airport as a technical stop. Check a few airports on the route that are suitable for your aircraft and schedule a via flight through this airport: AMS-one bar airport-SYD. This way you will have almost no passenger booked for the first leg and all are booked for the AMS-SYD.

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Just make sure that the runway length is long enough at your 1-bar techstop airport. Nobody likes to schedule a refuelling stop and find out that the plane can’t take off from there with a full belly of gas.

The easiest strategy is to find an interline partner based somewhere in Asia, you fly, or both of you fly AMS-Asia, and the Asian partner can carry passengers continuing onwards to SYD. This helps both of you, as you don’t need to find a full plane’s worth of passengers every day (assuming you wanted to run a daily flight).

The Great Circle routing essentially passes through HKG,MFM,CAN, and CTU. The midpoint of the GC route is somewhere between CTU and HKG/MFM/CAN, by my extremely scientific guesstimation. All are significant airports, so you should have plenty of traffic ex-AMS.

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Try Dubai Al Maktoum (DWC)

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Try Dubai Al Maktoum (DWC)

Yes, perfect 1 bar airport. Not. 

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Actually, one bar is in your interest

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Couple of weeks ago I tested a route from Buenos Aires to Tokyo Haneda with a stop in Honolulu flying a B777-200ER. It looks really great on your flight map, especially as no one else comes close with such routes. But in the end its a very expensive way to have a good looking flight map. It just costs tons of money.

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Why do you need technical stop?

You can use B777-200LR for direct flight between AMS and SYD. Your maximum capacity will be 87%, it is more than enough for excellent seats on-board.

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I won't suggust a technical stop. I tried it from FRA to SYD, but the pax do not like that. Since then I am using A340-500.  I had a short look at your airline: You have B787-8 which can operate non-stop on that route. You can transport up to 281 pax without cargo on that route. This is normaly still enough. Around 70% payload.

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If on Quimby and Ellinikon you can use a 777-200LR in profit.!

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And non stop. (better rating on ors)

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I fly several 787's non stop between London Gatwick and Sydney on Nicosia, with a small profit.  There is no need for a stop.