Flight creation Bug

Hi,

I've already contacted support on this one but it really goes on my nerves. I'm in an early stage of my airline, and as it happens you do a lot of rescheduling, new planes, new routes then reschedule again to fit the better plane type to this route.

There is a bug where flights will be created for more than 3 days in advance:

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I was told this problem is not high on their issue list, so I'd like to know if any other are experience it.

The thing is, when you assign flights to another plane the flights already created 3 days in advance will not be recreated for the new plane. Like this:

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I then have to manually transfer the plane back to the other airport. Not only loosing a lot of transfer pax because there is no return flight scheduled, but also some flight cancelations when I could not set the transfer flight in time.

I hope some other have this too, to bring this issue up in their priority list.

Thanks,

forexlive

PLease use the support button on the right and/or mail it to support@airlinesim.aero

Hi sk,

as I wrote, I did that and was told it is not high up on your priority list

Sure, but that the point with the flights in advance is "not that" problem as it is several days ahead and in case of a flight schedule change may be canceled without costs. But the 2nd screenshot looks like a mess to me and is not the same!

I had the same problem. Just leave them and the other flights will fill in when they get within 72 hours from departure.

Dont know what is going on with the 2nd picture... did you cancel those flights?

Nolan

The second picture is the result of rescheduling. After I assigned a flight plan from a plane with too far ahead flight creations to a new plane, there will be an incomplete flight creation process, because the return flights "are already created" (with the plane that used to have this particular schedule). Thats why I think the created flights in advance are a problem.

ok, if you mess up the flights this will be a problem. But are you sure that this is a common procedure?

hmm... I never had problems before. I do this to have a smooth transition when I change the equipment, because some flights have 100% transfer pax. 

I open the particular flight numbers and just re-assign the flights to the new plane under "Scheduling". Is that the wrong way?

One thing just came into my mind. I'm not 100% sure this is accurate but I think those flights created too far ahead only happend when I activated more than one schedule in a row. I did it like this:

1)Prepared schedules for 2 or 3 planes

2)Went to the first one and activated with 3 day delay

3)Clicked the arrow next to the plane's Nickname and activated with 3 day delay (which was already pre selected, I did not have to select via the drop-down menu)

4)Repeat step 3 with the remainder of the planes

Not sure if this helps

While it may be less than ideal, below is one stopgap solution to this issue that I recently posted on another thread. By the way, it seems to me that the exact date and time that the flight starts is based on the time of day that it was created--the "three days" is 72 hours from when the flight was created, not three calendar days.

I have a suggestion to help prevent cancellations of the first scheduled flights of planes. I don't know if this has been suggested before but it works for me.

  • After leasing or purchasing an aircraft, and later in the day after creating a schedule for it, go to the fleet management page.
  • Click on the "Flights" button (to the right of the green "Scheduling" button) for the plane in question.
  • Within a day or less of having created the schedule, the scheduled flights of the given plane will start appearing on this page.
  • The departure airport of the first-shown scheduled (revenue) flight is where the airplane will need to be, so schedule a transfer flight there.

Note: If the airplane I have leased is located somewhere on the other side of the world from where I expect to need it to be, I immediately schedule a transfer flight to my hub or an airport near where I expect it to be needed; that way, if I need to re-transfer the plane, it won't take as long to get there.

... There is a bug where flights will be created for more than 3 days in advance

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Hi,

I also get it once in a while. If you don't intend to change the schedule, just leave it.

If you intend to change the schedule of the plane, cancel that flight and then...

If you want to fly the same route at a different time, use another (temporary) flight number. If flight X has been cancelled on a given day, don't use the same flight number on that the same day at a different time.

If you schedule different routes, you can simply ignore the cancelled flight. The ORS will only perform the new scheduled flights and also ignore that cancelled flight.

Just make sure the first flight of your changed schedule departs at the same airport where the last flight of your old schedule arrived.

If the new schedule departs from another airport, you have to leave a gap (in time) before you activate the new schedule. That gap should allow you to do a transfer flight after the last flight is finished and before the first flight of the new schedule has to take off. In this case you have to be online during that gap, because transfer flights cannot be planned in advance. Alternatively, you can create a flight number for one repositioning flight and insert that one flight. As soon as the repositioning flight appears on the flight list, you remove it from the schedule and replace it by the regular flight.

In the best of worlds, we would simply tell our Flight Planning Staff to solve the problem  :P

Jan

@ sk:

Just wanted to check in, if you are planning on working this out? I still get this issue...

Cheers.

Just to make it clear - even now - meaning not up to 7 days ahead of the month-change.

yes....please see attached

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bump...

Another thing I've noticed:

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I'm 99% sure I cancelled the first flight (#126 departing the 17th), however the other filght at the bottom appeared already cancelled. 

I've created the flight plan yesterday and activated with 3 day delay.

Am I the only one who has this?

Cheers.

Seems like - I don't know what you are doing.

If it would be on every single plane I'd agree I mess something up but it isn't....I never had this before and I used to be on 2 other servers before. This was never an issue to me.

Maybe this helps:

I only get this on inbound flights to my home base. So far never outbound

I have this with LAX, SAN, SNA right now