How do I convince my passengers to use my airline?

I reset my airline on 12/10 because I wasn't happy with how many aircraft I had and the destinations and not enough funds. AS even cancelled a lease because I couldn't pay salaries. Also the name of the airline broke a rule (apparently it already existed).

So now... back fresh and I've finally figured out connections, to where I had almost half a plane just for a one of my own connections at my hub. Majority of my routes come back to the hub in a wave and can connection to five different destinations.

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(no idea how feeder works!?)

So an empty plane lose money, not priced right but full plane still loses money.

So how do I fix my load problem? Also what makes a route inbound or outbound?

Only flights ever filling to 100% is MCO, PVD, MIA to the hub and leaving the hub. (long distance money makers)

Inbound

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Outbound

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Sum it up I don't know what I'm doing.

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I'm pretty new here too. Today would be the third day if you reset on 12/10. So today would be your first day with flights that were listed for the full three day booking period. I wouldn't judge until tomorrow when you can view today's results. Also, something I did with my airline at the very beginning, I didn't assign the service profiles properly, so my loads were low, from the poor in flight service. Hope this helps.

-Tony@PVD

Looking into one of your routes in ORS, BWI-CLT.

Your first flights apprears on page 5 with a rating of 76 and no business class available on your plane.

You need a rating of 99 to beat the big competitior on that routes (and you have 2). Then you can raise the price slowly and passengers will still fly with your company.

Your other plane, AVIC II - why have you choosen a one-bar-plane trying to connect 2 major cities? Your rating is only 59 (in ORS).

You have IL connections to companies not operating in your area. You have no network.

I assume that your service and also you cabin configuration is not good enough.

Feeder: connecting PAX flying with your or another company.

And yes, you have to wait at least 3 days to trust the numbers. Even more to be sure if a route works or not.

Thanks for the feedback @highscore.

I chose the AVIC II because the ATL is so close to CLT and I can get a full plane to and from ATL but it's a total loss. (or should I just take that loss?)

So I wanted a cheaper smaller plane that can run all day long back and forth. Not run a loss.

Service Profile (for majority of my flights)

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Only IL I have that doesn't connect is Mexico Lines (yet) the other connect with me in CLT.

** Also I'm switching out some of the cabin configs to Business/First, only did it on my MIA plane.

68 Econo (100%), 1 Bus, 1 First nearly paid for the flight (-2% margin) and its only 76% full.

AS passengers need and want luxury! You need business class and a better service profile. With business seats you start to earn money.

Regarding your routes: no, you should not take a loss. ATL-CTL should give you a very good profit but: the competition on this route is huge. So just leave it for now - you need not-competitive routes to start with. (ATL is nearly full so you anyhow should choose other destinations.) With a good wave-system you can connect these near big airports. What are your wave-times by the way? Cannot see a clear concept here - or do you use point-to-point strategy?

			 
		
			 
		
			 

Route wise... its Dest -> Hub -> Dest depending on the day ... JFK, TPA, FLL, MCO, ORD, BWI, IAD, PVD, DAL, MIA with five planes. I want to get 5 more E95's and do the invert or convert each plane to a single dest.

All flights get into CLT before or at 8:35, 14:15, 22:00 and all flights leave CLT on or after 10:05, 15:45, 23:30. (1:30m+ for TT)

Times are all spread because of MIA's flight distance and not really slot availability on any of my routes.

So yeah five planes all come and go at or near the same time to CLT.

Unless I don't know what wave means... :D

That is the problem... you have only very few slots available in these airports...

Thanks for all the information highscore. It might be time for another company reset. :D

You always need eco and business class. If recliner shorthaul seats in eco give you profit depends on the route lenght and the demand of course.

ComfortPlus for eco and LieBed140 for business pay the lease and more... :-) But this is just one of many options you have.

Read this

http://community.airlinesim.aero/topic/8123-as-for-beginners-an-attempted-blog/

and watch these tutorials:

The Let's Play Airlinesim Series

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL999FE6D0B80E5ADD

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpVUxdiS7yw9S42dkc3ZNLwNK_AZ4IRRt

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpVUxdiS7yw8inNjRSmdp9mBRleh36qGB

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpVUxdiS7yw_JfoTuXbTyJKeFJx3ldvnk

While the interface is now slightly different, but the basics are not ...and majority of stuff is the same anyway...

so you may want to check out

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So now... back fresh and I've finally figured out connections, to where I had almost half a plane just for a one of my own connections at my hub. Majority of my routes come back to the hub in a wave and can connection to five different destinations.

(no idea how feeder works!?)

... but full plane still loses money.

So how do I fix my load problem? Also what makes a route inbound or outbound?

Only flights ever filling to 100% is MCO, PVD, MIA to the hub and leaving the hub. (long distance money makers)

Hi,

with only 5 planes, waves that connect to 5 different destinations is excellent.

A flight is called a feeder flight if it brings a lot of transfer passengers to your hub. In smaller countries domestic flights often bring transfer passengers to the capital, from where they take an international flight. In the USA for example, a plane coming from the east could bring passengers who want to travel further to the west.

A full plane should not loose money. Possible reasons for loosing money are: the plane spends too much time on the ground (you also pay lease and salaries if the plane does not fly). The plane flies very short routes. Default price for a short flight is what... 77 dollar ? You still have to pay 11 dollar for passenger handling and 10 dollar for your on-board service. Or your prices are simply too low.

Flights that leave your hub are called outbound. Flights to your hub are inbound flights. Many airlines use odd flight numbers for outbound flights, and even numbers for the returning inbound flight.

If you juststart your airline, and you find a route that gets fully booked, forget connecting flights for the next two weeks. Launch several flights a day on that route. But with future waves in mind, you spread these flights evenly over the day. The flights that bring in cash, pay for your experimenting attempts to find other profitable routes. And routes that are not profitable today, may well be profitable next month if you offer more connecting flights.

So far your questions  :-)

I don't know if I understood you well, but know that you can create and use several service levels. I suggest you create 3 service profiles: one for flights under 800 km, one for flights between 800 and 1500 km (with one extra meal), and one service profile for flights over 1500 km. Three or four green bars is the most you can get on short flights, but on longer flights I go for 5 bar service.

Don't be afraid of routes with competition. It could mean there is a lot of demand on that route. If necessary, interline with an airline on the other end. Interlining can be expensive, but if you have several flights per day to that destination, the IL should pay itself back. And communicate. It helps.

As Julian/Highscore said, don't forget business passengers. Like in real life, they are moneymakers for your airline.

Don't be afraid to use bigger seats. In theory, the game is perfectly balanced. If you use a seat that is twice as big, you can sell the ticket for twice as much. AS passengers don't care about the price. They only care about value for money.

Your ORS ratings should be good, especially on competitive routes. AS passengers are not loyal. Every day they look for the best way to travel from A to B. Increase your prices until your ORS rating is above 95. I always go for 99, but slightly below should not make too much difference.

Find someone on your server who knows the game. It is easier to give advice for a player who can check your ratings, or the check the fleet list, if he plays on the same server  ;-)

Cheers,

Jan

Your ORS ratings should be good, especially on competitive routes. AS passengers are not loyal. Every day they look for the best way to travel from A to B. Increase your prices until your ORS rating is above 95. I always go for 99, but slightly below should not make too much difference.

I often asked myself how to reach even 100 in ORS rating. Now I have found it... :) ^_^ :D

Sorry this is probably a stupid question. 

Where do you see the numerical value in ORS? I can only ever find the number of bars

Thanks!

Hi,

hover your mouse over the green bars. A pop up will appear with the numerical value.

Also works for your airline image (on the dashboard page of your airline  ;-)

Jan

Hi,

hover your mouse over the green bars. A pop up will appear with the numerical value.

Also works for your airline image (on the dashboard page of your airline  ;-)

Jan

Thanks Jan!

Thanks Jan!

Stupid question, where exactly do I see my ORS?

ORS = Online Reservation System