Hello,
First of all, sry for my english.
Is it a viable plan to use a nightban 8 bar large airport as hub, but your planes not start from here, but from the destinations?
Eg: nban ends at 6:00 and planes(domestic-short q400) starts from other airports at 04:00-05:00 to land precisely at 6:00 and going back…08:00?
I’m trying my fifth company at a fairly good spot(ory) and try to make a good wave -connection etc system.
Any help appreciated. Ty.
Sure, you can use a nightban airport and make this work.
I would not pause flying during the night. Instead, I would send my plane(s) to another airport and fly from there. Leaving still enough time for maintenance break.
Your question when to "going back... 08:00?" - what exactly do you want to know? There is a minimum transfer time (visible on the airport information site) which means that you should start not before the minimum transfer time plus 1 min.
Hello!
As long as you don't suffer from the night ban, I don't see anything wrong with that option. Most of my own waves are organized like this actually, with the plane sleeping on another airport than my hub. It's working fairly well!
As a rule of thumb though, choosing an airport with such ban as your hub can be challenging for the beginning. I wish you the best success!
Western Europe is not an easy place to get started. :)
Ofc as a Hun i would like to resurrect the Malev (known by its blue nose) but central eu even harder, as i saw(not to mention Bud which is an avrg airport).
And yes on 08:00 i meant the connection time(ory 1:30).
I try my best, as airline empires was too easy for me, even from starting on ory with a big cdg competitor, i nearly killed his major lines pretty fast. And airwaysim a bit expensive for me(since i work in Healthcare dp) and a bit easier than this, so i try to pull out my tycoon experience. 
I once built up the 3rd or 4th largest airline on the server in ORY. It works if you use the night ban for maintenance or night stops at the other destinations.
And airwaysim a bit expensive for me(since i work in Healthcare dp) and a bit easier than this, so i try to pull out my tycoon experience. :)
This is AirlineSim not Airwaysim and this is much better than Airwaysim ;).
I know, i said i tried that, but was expensive. Btw it has some good things, most notably the maintenance system. The small and large maintenance checks and the one very large in every few years.
But overall this is a more complex game.
Btw its a shame that there are no good airline or airport tycoon games( for singleplayer like Airport inc. aka airport tycoon 1 from my childhood) anymore.
Another question: should i choose only minimal on-board service for 500-900 km routes?
Another question: should i choose only minimal on-board service for 500-900 km routes?
As a rule of thumb, unless you have zero competition on your routes, you should always go for the highest possible rating.
Having a minimal service would force you to lower the prices significantly in order to keep the same ORS rating, which would consequently cripple your margin.
I would do as Univ and always aim for the best but some like rubiohiguey2000 does go for Business class cantering on short flights at 1 green bar instead of 3 (maximum possible on routes under 800km) because it is just a bit more cost effective.
With excellent image in C you can go for best C class catering even on shortest flights and you get slight marginal benefit over marginal cost… But you must have excellent C class image, terminals, and you have to tune up the cost of that best catering as well as markups precisely. A very tedious work.
One more question. Do we have an option , to set on-board services to range? Like in Airline empires.
Eg.: Service option “A” to 0-1000km , option “B” 1001-2500 , and so on.
You can set 0-799, 800-1499 and above 1500 km.
In my experience, the slots immediately after 6:00 (usual time when night ban ends) and the departure slots immediately before 0:00 (when night time ban often starts) are filled up very quickly. For obvious reasons.
With my first airline, I also did what you were proposing, so originating the flights at the outstations rather than in the hub. And having them fly from that outstation to some other place and back during the night. It works reasonably well but still my airline is only barely surviving, because it was my very first airline so I didn't really keep a good strategy and the competition in mind.
Of course this only works in larger countries and in europe, because say if you are a south american airline from country A, you can't just fly passengers from country B to C unless there is some special treaty. However within EU that's no problem, the entire EU can be seen as one big domestic market.
And why can't you fly within the same country? Let's say, SCL would be nightban restricted, I would fly out to either Arica or Bogota or Brasilia and come back at a time when SCL is open again...
You can of course fly within one country, even France offers so many good routes that you can bridge the 6 hours break pretty easy.
As a rule of thumb, unless you have zero competition on your routes, you should always go for the highest possible rating.
Having a minimal service would force you to lower the prices significantly in order to keep the same ORS rating, which would consequently cripple your margin.
Good to see that some of my tips have been accepted... :)
You don't need to find a exact route to fill in that night ban time. You can also put your maintenance time during that night ban in a different airport
Regarding this, I once had an airline in the Bahamas and at the beginning I was very bothered by the night time ban and that I already had a competitor who had taken all slots within one hour of the ban. But this did not turn out to be a problem as I sent everything I had (including CRJs) to the US over night. Some planes had longer flights and did not have time for maintenance while others had plenty of time for the maintenance at their overnight US destination, then all planes had shorter flights to the Caribbean and Florida, and returning for the next wave which was to South America and Mexico and then again a very short Caribbean wave (4 hours) and then to the US to overnight. I have also played a bit in Norway but there the night time ban quite bothered me.
Well i tried a schedule, i’l see how many pax will use my airline, tho’ i have q400’s and my competitor(not based on ory) using cr’s and 321’s, so i have already issues with my ors rating when i compare to him, but i have to wait a few days, maybe…( or restart with the all mighty 195’s)
I have also played a bit in Norway but there the night time ban quite bothered me.
I think within Europe will be your only choice. Check this airline at Oslo, http://nicosia.airlinesim.aero/app/info/timetable?14&office=414634
it looks like the player is using departure waves before night ban. (but maybe should move departure a little bit later as the airrivals are not really connected to the depatreus. There's just not enough transfer time).
Well looks like ory and my wave system works, and my routes starting to fill up(next time i choose embraers, instead of q400's..) . Well.. more or less.
Sadly no one accepted my IL request for now…