Optimizing new aircraft orders and registration

Hi,

I am just wondering if the AS Team could implement a new way of ordering new aircrafts, where a holding can order planes and distribute it between its subsidiaries - just like how AF-KLM can order a large batch of 77Ws for the two airlines.

Advantages:

- lower aircraft ordering cost as the discount is greater when ordering 20 than 10+10

- even distribution of delivery times: since now one holding only has one production line, if HOLDING A orders 10 x 73Gs and then SUBSIDIARY B orders another 10 x 73Gs, B will need to wait till A's delivery to complete before receiving its first - if HOLDING A can order 20 x 73Gs and distribute some of them to B, the player can choose freely WHEN and HOW MANY of the 73Gs A and B will have, respectively

Counter proposal: if this new aircraft ordering system cannot be achieved, can we at least be able to transfer the aircraft leasing contracts within the same holding? That way, upon ordering 20 x 73Gs, A can choose to transfer 10 of them to B, retaining all the weekly payment time and cost.

My second suggestion is, can we choose the aircraft registration when we receive aircrafts? Right now, it is pretty chaotic as the reg is randomly assigned by a first come first serve basis. That leads to messy registrations within a fleet e.g. an airline owning only 3 aircrafts could have something like F-AACD, F-ACEK, and then F-AHBW, which is pretty annoying especially when you order the 4th aircraft and the reg just jumps in between and says F-ADDJ. It would be great if we can choose our own registration within the country limit - I am not saying that one airline can block the whole F-AA** series but it would be nice if we can have an option to assign regs on the aircrafts in the fleet or on order.

Also, it would be nice if the USA regs do not go over 999, but the airlines can choose a new two-letter code.

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Personalised registrations?

Do you want to spell out rude words or something mate? :P

Hope all is well.

Personalised registrations?

Do you want to spell out rude words or something mate? :P

Hope all is well.

LOL no I don't want to spell out rude words. I just want to know if I order 26 new aircrafts, their registration will be nicely fitted into, let's say, B-HAA all thru B-HAZ :D

I'm doing well hope you're doing fine too! :)

could an AS team member comment on this suggestion please? very much appreciated.

Concerning orders: You can do that already when you actually buy aircraft. Other than that we have no intentions right now to make life even easier for large airlines to achieve economies of scale.

Concerning registrations: It's a long held wish of ourselves to have manually assignable registrations. But for one, we hardly find the time for a lot more urgent things right now and second it's more complex to implement than it might seem (given the current setup, not that it's generally hard). 

Concerning orders: You can do that already when you actually buy aircraft. Other than that we have no intentions right now to make life even easier for large airlines to achieve economies of scale.

Concerning registrations: It's a long held wish of ourselves to have manually assignable registrations. But for one, we hardly find the time for a lot more urgent things right now and second it's more complex to implement than it might seem (given the current setup, not that it's generally hard). 

fair enough for not making large airlines' life easier ;)

and I'm glad the registration thing is on your radar and I hope one day this function will realize!

thank you Martin

I know this is going back a few years, just a few :wink: lol - wow I mean I think it was either 2013 or 2014 when I first played airlinesim, I wasn’t very good XD

Anyway I had the same thought cross my mind over xmas & while we’ve been generally talking of wish lists & the future, I figured it couldn’t hurt to bump rather then doubling up suggestions.

I like the idea of being able to have customisable registrations like we do with aircraft names, especially since many never get past the X-AA or X-AB prefix. It can be particularly dreary if your the only operator in a country

But its also a trivial idea & probably a pain to implement on the backend. It doesn’t exactly effect gameplay but I think its worth listing the nice to have ideas just in case :wink:

I mean it could be implemented to have an additional premium cost like a filing fee since you do have private companies that specialise in custom registrations. It would be pretty cool to invest a little into a flagship or important aircraft. We do often see airline’s singling out an aircraft for the sake of PR or company image for promotions, expansions etc etc.

I was just thinking about this yesterday. Would be great to have it on the roadmap at least.

I also really like the idea of being able to lease order planes to a holding, and to be able to more freely distribute, as AF-KLM or e.g. AirAsia indeed do.

I’ve put it on the roadmap: Custom Registrations :wink:

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Thanks Martin. Would it be possible to have a way for better distributing leased planes between multiple subsidiaries as well?

I would even add multi-type orders, especially in the same family, as part of my wishlist.

Easier said than done. Just shifting around aircraft including their contracts would mean I could just transfer aircraft I want to get rid of without waiting for the end of the contract to a temporary subsidiary and shutting that down (just one example I can think of…not sure whether it’s relevant). But keeping the leasing contract in the parent and just moving the aircraft around would probably open a whole other can of worms.

I think stuff like that should be tackled as part of a wider “corporation” feature, which would cover other aspects of more than one company under a single holding essentially acting as a single entity…think taxation etc.

Related but different: I can see how this would be realistic and why you’d want those discounts, but it’s one of those features that really only benefit already large companies, so if I were to tackle this one, I’d want to combine this with other mechanisms that introduce some sort of downside, like having to purchase options, picking far out delivery slots or whatnot.

Actually i see it opposite because for large company, the current structure works just fine. I can order 50 A320neo heavy with no problem and get the max discount rate, but for smaller company, it’s more likely for them to order a mix of type, such as 20 A320neo light, 20 A320neo heavy, and 10 A321neo light, to get this discounted rate.

I see your point, although I’d argue that if an airline is able to order 50 aircraft in a single batch, discount or not, it’s not a “small airline” anymore :slight_smile:

50 is just an example :joy: I think you see my point that you will have the ability to get a higher discount than the current system provides if you allow mixing the order.

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