Otto aircrafts (Old plane choice?)

Really like this game, but not new Otto server.

Just don`t like fact old aircraft can be ordered as new without any limits (no sense of realism). Slots will be filled in week, people flying unrealistic models ... Just don`t want to compete here, so i make ma small prop company and thats it :)

I really like MD11 for example but i just don`t want to see it in game with aircraft age 0, i want see that 23 years :)

I think so too. The people with 70 IL-18Ds will perform a lot of flights with them which amounts to a great image penalty over time. Even if they'd switch them to modern jets later, it will be a pain to do first of all and they will never recover from the image penalties which gives an advantage to their competitors, especially on connections. This 'quick scheme' may look impressive now but as the game world progresses a lot of them will fail.

The server will end in6 months so image is not important.

Whoa …

Am I the only one who love to play Otto with its “unrealistic” challenge?

I don’t like the fact that a Boeing 707 is made freshly new today. Or that somebody can order 70 Russian plane in one day. But I don’t think I should complain about this kind of thing because IT IS the challenge for this particular world. We’ve seen no ground networks, double slots, one hub only, only modern, etc. Now we meet again with a world where a profit-oriented player will lease old aircraft in unrealistic amount and flood every slots available. For me, this player is the reason I want to play cause I wanna beat him with my own humble strategy. And I want to prove that realistic method can always be applied to compete winning-oriented style.

Of course, I expect to see a more humble production rate or correct image use. But AS will develop over time, won’t them? Maybe on the upcoming diverse passenger type, there will be passenger who does not want to fly Russian plane or older frame.

My humble feedback:

I enjoy this configuration. What has been said about lack of realism and slots being filled quickly is true, but also this is only one game world. If you want to use a realistic game world then use one of the others, there are many opportunities in Riem, for example, if you want to establish in a more normal game world. 

Usually I am a big fan of "realism", but in this case I have to say that I absolutely like this setup. Only having "new" airplanes available makes it a bit boring and having (unlimited, because you can order them) old aircraft available opens up so many different strategies that you could use. It would be great to see a similar setup being used on a long time game world (but then with the double amount of slots, like on Quimby - otherwise they fill up to quickly). Its nice to have different settings for different game worlds - everybody can choose what suits him...

Remember no one has forced anyone to play any server. It is your choice to play on a server, and most have different configs to suit

You are totally right. It’s so fantastic to fly old aircrafts, and to own a fleet over 50-150 aircrafts in the first week.

Players, who don’t like this, can play on other servers, like Quimby.

There is no real reason to be pissed of, because Otto is limited and will restart in some months, so there is no real need to provide FairPlay for players who join later, these can find their fun on other servers.

So to sum up: Great Job AS Team, thank you for making Otto very intersting and dynamic

Hi,

in my opinion OTTO is the best server we ever had. It` s realy a pleasure to be able to buy "real" airplanes. I can finally avoid the plastic planes of Airbus and Boeing and return to some classic smokers.

Great job, Airlinesim!

Couldn't the fact that old planes are cheaper be mitigated by adjusting for inflation? Take 1970s price, but in today's dollars?

Then, they would cost actually more than current models do.

"old" planes deteriorating a lot faster than new ones, also the low ors etc rating, which means u have to change them sooner or later.

Tho’…u will have a s**tload of advantage in your city, against your competitors who are using new planes, like cs300’s in my case. And then there is the dc8-6 and -7, cheap narrow body with like 9-10k range… 

I like this setup, next time i’l start with more IL-18 and less DC, but for a first ‘old plane’ server, i’m not failed too much(apart from the 4 restarts in the first few hours). :) 

Whoa ....

Am I the only one who love to play Otto with its “unrealistic” challenge?

I don’t like the fact that a Boeing 707 is made freshly new today. Or that somebody can order 70 Russian plane in one day. But I don’t think I should complain about this kind of thing because IT IS the challenge for this particular world. We’ve seen no ground networks, double slots, one hub only, only modern, etc. Now we meet again with a world where a profit-oriented player will lease old aircraft in unrealistic amount and flood every slots available. For me, this player is the reason I want to play cause I wanna beat him with my own humble strategy. And I want to prove that realistic method can always be applied to compete winning-oriented style.

Of course, I expect to see a more humble production rate or correct image use. But AS will develop over time, won’t them? Maybe on the upcoming diverse passenger type, there will be passenger who does not want to fly Russian plane or older frame.

For me, I think flying old plane like 707, DC8 or IL18 is OK in the early stage of Otto world. But I sincerely hope that the AS team can adjust image later as those who are now flying old planes sometimes can get the highest priority in ORS. 

Well they do highest priority because of prices they charge, service they offer, and seats they put in the planes.

They get bad image points form these aircraft (5 red bars in popularity) so they will never be able to achieve 90+ image ratings. The more they fly these aircraft the worse it will be for them to exchange them and the longer they take the lower their final image will be.

Well they do highest priority because of prices they charge, service they offer, and seats they put in the planes.

They get bad image points form these aircraft (5 red bars in popularity) so they will never be able to achieve 90+ image ratings. The more they fly these aircraft the worse it will be for them to exchange them and the longer they take the lower their final image will be.

I have a subsidiary old plane on Otto and my ORS is 99 image?

I have a subsidiary old plane on Otto and my ORS is 99 image?

Your ORS rating is not your image rating. That’s your value rating.

Ok, I changed my mind, and my strategy and Otto II is definitely not without interested. It is for example very usefull for testing long-haul scheduling tricks with its super cheap aircraft.

Besides I'm glad to have achieved a 100,000,000+ SKO in less than five days without having the impression to cheat too much, and maybe options for quicker starts in other worlds should be considered in the future. But I predict Otto will be a real bloodshed sooner or later...

Well it will be sooner , already 3000+ il18, + 200-300 only in the night when i slept…

Friends, i have started a poll in ''Suggestions and Ideas'' whether to restart Otto 2 or not. Please do vote

Otto 2 is a total failure. IL-18d cancer has spread all around Otto 2. Slot availability has fallen even below 10% in some airports (Beijing 3%) even within 2 weeks.

Raise your voice now. Please do vote and let others know u r opinions in ''Suggestions and Ideas''