Hello
So what do u suggest to use from old planes , i played only new plane servers.
I noticed that my beloved Tristars are quite good, as well the flyin pencils (757) , but apart from that?
Distance irrelevant, u can write short , mid , longs too.
The il18, 707, DC8, DC9, 747-100, 737-100/200 are the best.
I would rather say 737 300 and 737 400, they are powerhouses if ordered new because of their cheap price. And I would not discard new MD 88s either.
Well, first i'm gonna try 722, looks not bad, apart from the sh*tty range (minimum is around 1200.. oh well, still fine for usa)
Lot of guys ordering new (new new…like cs300 etc), even on my hub, so this gonna be an interesting race(at least for me) between golden age jet’s, and new ones.
Well, first i'm gonna try 722, looks not bad, apart from the sh*tty range (minimum is around 1200.. oh well, still fine for usa)
Lot of guys ordering new (new new…like cs300 etc), even on my hub, so this gonna be an interesting race(at least for me) between golden age jet’s, and new ones.
Exactly.
I don't know, whether they're not aware of cheaper but good aircraft, or they just want to use modern plane since the beginning, CS1 is quite popular. I mean, there will be no age difference between these CS1s and 727s. The only significant difference is its popularity.
Well i had to restart because..DC-8-62 happened.
This planes is ridiculous. Very cheap, Long haul plane(8K<), but nice profit margint on short too.
Yeah, on quimby CS familiy is actually unbeatable in small plane race, with its price/range/profit, but on otto? Definitely not a starting plane.
I did not really calculate like with a spreadsheet. But at first look: aren't the "old new" planes quite expensive? A 747-400 costs about 9 million, more than a A350. That is why I chose "new new" planes on Otto.
Actually I think the noise regulation in airlinesim probably needs to be updated as IRL i think those 862 have to be reengined to 872 to fit noise regulation of airports in US while they are completely fine here…
And why is 707 wb while both dc8 and il62m are still nb…
Dunno in reality its nb like the others.
I'm not sure if it's the 707, but one narrowbody model is classed as a widebody due to the pilot commonality with a widebody model.
757 and super 80s/90s are the best. Even MD87s are good, especially for low yielding flights.
737-200 can also be a good consideration for its range and RWY performance.
I'm not sure if it's the 707, but one narrowbody model is classed as a widebody due to the pilot commonality with a widebody model.
It's 757. it shares the same pilot type certification with 767
but 707 is under wide body list for some reasons
Btw : old planes deteriorating faster? Just after 2 short/med flight conditipn dropped below 90% , after one long haul flg a plane dropped to 94%
Day 2
Some airlines already have 70 aircrafts, slot availability is already down to only 66% in some major airports.
Honestly, I've seen better form the AS team than those ill-advised game settings.
I know that the rules are the same for all, and that I could also get cheap USSR planes, but this is supposed to be a realistic game and with all those IL-18D, the game gets 0% immersive.
This is unfortunately the first time I'm considering not refilling my credit account, and I'm quite sad about that because I think the AS team is otherwise doing an amazing work. :(
Day 2
Some airlines already have 70 aircrafts, slot availability is already down to only 66% in some major airports.
Honestly, I've seen better form the AS team than those ill-advised game settings.
I know that the rules are the same for all, and that I could also get cheap USSR planes, but this is supposed to be a realistic game and with all those IL-18D, the game gets 0% immersive.
This is unfortunately the first time I'm considering not refilling my credit account, and I'm quite sad about that because I think the AS team is otherwise doing an amazing work. :(
This is one of the reasons, why we have these kind of gameworlds, which restarts. It's all about gather information on how to optimize user-experience. Comments like this, are so important. Otherwise, AS doesn't know how to improve.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. 
I voted for this structure and it is something different but it is nostalgia as Quimby 2 was like this and honestly it was an enjoyable experience, even though I never played large scale on Quimby 2 but I had a very minor operation. Would you prefer just having two completely normal temporary worlds relaunched with the same configuration each time? One can easily beat those soviet planes. Passengers would always chose more modern jets.
One can easily beat those soviet planes. Passengers would always chose more modern jets.
I think so too. The people with 70 IL-18Ds will perform a lot of flights with them which amounts to a great image penalty over time. Even if they'd switch them to modern jets later, it will be a pain to do first of all and they will never recover from the image penalties which gives an advantage to their competitors, especially on connections. This 'quick scheme' may look impressive now but as the game world progresses a lot of them will fail.
I have also voted for this setup.
Many players apparently love to fly older planes and that is why I voted for old planes. I have to agree though, that having the old planes available at “old”, cheap prices is not ideal. While we always try to curb initial airline growth (with initial lower demand for example), the cheaper purchase prices counteract this effort.
As Banff wrote, we do appreciate your feedback and we certainly will try to do better with the next server.
Remember no one has forced anyone to play any server. It is your choice to play on a server, and most have different configs to suit
I voted for this structure and it is something different but it is nostalgia as Quimby 2 was like this and honestly it was an enjoyable experience, even though I never played large scale on Quimby 2 but I had a very minor operation. Would you prefer just having two completely normal temporary worlds relaunched with the same configuration each time? One can easily beat those soviet planes. Passengers would always chose more modern jets.
I perfectly understand that some players like older aicrafts, and I myself like to see some diversity. However advantages of some older frames are usually mitigated by the limited number of units produced and elevated maintenance costs.
I was actually expecting for Otto II second hand aircrafts from the beginning, so I guess the answer is yes, I would prefer having temporary worlds following the same configuration or at least a playable one.
I know the second hand market is quite skewed and some players are protesting each time a new server is launched, but maybe security deposits and leasing rates could be calculated another way and not be always the same fraction of the aircraft value over time (i.e. the leasing rate and security deposit could decrease much more slowly than aircraft value).
The situation is concerning because - for example - one IL-18D can be produced every 9 hours, that mean that we can expect to see them multiply like rabbits. The image issue is very easy to overcome, the time that ORS ratings are going to be critical, these airlines will have earned enough money to start a new subsidiary and voilà, image is reset to 0 (besides, they operate only brand new aircrafts so the effect on image is not even that bad...)
Remember no one has forced anyone to play any server. It is your choice to play on a server, and most have different configs to suit
Seriously? (rolling eyes)