I've restarted my airline in Otto II as using CS300 I was about 250k net every week which is way too low.
I've opened a new flyRainbow but this time with A320-200 light and per flight I am not really earning more than before.
I am concerned about my earnings because my previous airline, at Quimby, using SU9, was earning enough to lease new SU9 every 4 days (before closing the airline I was earning enough for 2-3 SU9 a week).
Right now I have less expensive IFS, more seats in airplanes and I still cannot manage to earn as much as I was able to before.
Of course I am fully aware that SU9 costs 1,4mln and CS300 costs 2,3mln but before I had to earn approx. 3mln net to lease new airplanes and now with bigger airplanes and cheaper IFS on routes with 100% load I make only 250k a week which is enough only for that bloody IL18D.
Could you make me aware of my wrongdoing? Is it Otto specific or is there that big difference in fixed costs between SU and Western airplanes?
Western planes are actually better than Sukhois per passenger. With only western planes I make the money to fully buy a superjet each day. Either you don’t fill your planes or you underprice. Please read or watch the tutorials or you can spend thousands of hours reading through the forums. All tricks are described. If you look carefully you will find all the secrets of big players including mine.
The thing is that my CS300 fleet was flying basically 100% loaded with just a few routes in mid 80-90% and still was barely making me any profit after cost deduction. Prices were basic. I had a tad expensive IFS but I've calculated the difference and with cheaper IFS I'd make about 130k net more a week.
You should consider leasing some Embraers or CRJs as they seem to be very profitable, and as well it is quite easy to fill them, Raising prices a bit could also prove helpful.
Which seats are you using? Sometimes less & more expensive is more. I recommend Recliner shorthaul for economy lie-flat 140 or 160 for business, it will boost your ORS rating by a lot and you can add ~50% more to your price. You will serve less passengers but make more money.
You can definitely go up with the price by around 20-30%. I checked your ORS rating which is mostly higher than your competition, no problem there.
The longer the route, the more you will earn. Don't take too short routes.
What's your maintenance-provier? What's the maintenance-ratio of your planes? With the new airbus you can take an expensive maintenance-provider with high efficiency since new (year 20xx) planes don't cost much maintenance. Like this you might be able to get one more flight/plane/day. Always keep your maintenance-ratio above 100% and below 150%. With airbus you should aim to get your maintenance-ratio below 120% because your leasing is incredibly expensive.
Increase your cargo price in case it's fully booked.
Manage prices and service-profiles individually for each route. As you grow, more passengers will book your flights and you can increase the price step by step. Also, ass 10-20% extra salary to your staff each month, which will boost your image and therefore your ORS - and then you can increase the price again.
You should consider leasing some Embraers or CRJs as they seem to be very profitable, and as well it is quite easy to fill them, Raising prices a bit could also prove helpful.
I would like to hereby disagree with you, for I am always operating Embraers and they have never failed me. They are quite cheap and offer high profit margins.
I think I will restart the airline and fully utilize your suggestions Silen, thank you. I feel like it's the best thing to do right now.
By the way, which of those would be the best for an airline based in Europe: CS300 or 737-400/700/600/ or Airbus A320-XXX or Airbus A319-XXX or sth else?
I would like to hereby disagree with you, for I am always operating Embraers and they have never failed me. They are quite cheap and offer high profit margins.
You're only right if you take the embraer 195's.
Here is a quick analysis that I made, short-medium-haul route, 1245km, standard economy configuration:
I think I will restart the airline and fully utilize your suggestions Silen, thank you. I feel like it's the best thing to do right now.
By the way, which of those would be the best for an airline based in Europe: CS300 or 737-400/700/600/ or Airbus A320-XXX or Airbus A319-XXX or sth else?
I will check. In general though it is easier to start with cheaper airplanes like the DC-931 or DC-915
I will check. In general though it is easier to start with cheaper airplanes like the DC-931 or DC-915
Out of the airplanes you told me the 737-400 seems to be the most profitable option, followed by the CS300. Other Boing 737 don't seem to be much profitable, on average if you wanna have a high diversity of airplane size and stuff I'd still recommend airbus.
Here is a quick analysis that I made, short-medium-haul route, 1245km, standard economy configuration:
Indeed I have used mostly E95s, although in some situations E90s and even E70s turned out to be profitable, but that was on routes with rather low demand, so using bigger planes wouldn't be advisable anyway
Out of the airplanes you told me the 737-400 seems to be the most profitable option, followed by the CS300. Other Boing 737 don't seem to be much profitable, on average if you wanna have a high diversity of airplane size and stuff I'd still recommend airbus.
Thank you a lot!
Do you consider A319 a viable option or just A320 series?
Do you consider A319 a viable option or just A320 series?
Usually I'd recommend starting off with the 318 for new routes and swap them later for a bigger one, step by step. If you are sure though that your routes are running well and you know you'll get 90%+, go for 320 or 321. The bigger (and the lighter the version), the more profit they make. (A318 35% margin, A321 48% margin) at 1245km, standard configuration.
Usually I'd recommend starting off with the 318 for new routes and swap them later for a bigger one, step by step. If you are sure though that your routes are running well and you know you'll get 90%+, go for 320 or 321. The bigger (and the lighter the version), the more profit they make. (A318 35% margin, A321 48% margin) at 1245km, standard configuration.
What if A318 is too small and A320 is too big? Would you consider A319?
I hope you don’t mind the amount of questions I ask.
Here is a quick analysis that I made, short-medium-haul route, 1245km, standard economy configuration:
You are realizing that the screenshot scenario is your particular own one. It may not at all apply to others. Nor does it justify your plain wrong statement:
Embraers belong to the most unprofitable planes.
Even though you try to whitewash your wrong statement by putting E95 into a green box ("your only right, if..."): It was you, who made a false claim.
- Who is deciding on the green bar? What do the colors actually mean? What is Yellow?
- Why didn't you compare the A321-200 standard / standard enhanced (well known for being the most economic aircraft in other AS game-worlds)
- You are aware that you are comparing aircraft with 180 seats to aircraft with 50 seats. Are you?
- What made you decide to put the unprofitable Embraers (your statement) in a greenbox?
- Why are you including LR/AR versions of the E95 (who are clearly less profitable on a 1245km route) in that comparison? You do understand for which route to use these E95 variants?
For the rest of us:
Check out what the crowd is choosing, by looking at the number of machines owned by the various operators.
While there may be hundreds of owners of E95, there may be less than half of owners for the E95 LR, and even less for the E95 AR variant. Try to figure out why this is and if it is relevant to your own game strategy (this is when you start to scratch your head why Silen puts them all into the same basket).
FYI:
I am connecting 1 and 2 bar airports in Russia using the E75 enhanced in a Y36 Comfort Plus / C8 Lie Flat 140 configs. At an increase of 35%-50% of the normal ticket price, these routes earn me more than any half empty "green boxed" planes of yours. And they bring me good connecting passengers to my hub. But that is my particular scenario.
You are realizing that the screenshot scenario is your particular own one. It may not at all apply to others. Nor does it justify your plain wrong statement:
Even though you try to whitewash your wrong statement by putting E95 into a green box ("your only right, if..."): It was you, who made a false claim.
- Who is deciding on the green bar? What do the colors actually mean? What is Yellow?
- Why didn't you compare the A321-200 standard / standard enhanced (well known for being the most economic aircraft in other AS game-worlds)
- You are aware that you are comparing aircraft with 180 seats to aircraft with 50 seats. Are you?
- What made you decide to put the unprofitable Embraers (your statement) in a greenbox?
- Why are you including LR/AR versions of the E95 (who are clearly less profitable on a 1245km route) in that comparison? You do understand for which route to use these E95 variants?
For the rest of us:
Check out what the crowd is choosing, by looking at the number of machines owned by the various operators.
While there may be hundreds of owners of E95, there may be less than half of owners for the E95 LR, and even less for the E95 AR variant. Try to figure out why this is and if it is relevant to your own game strategy (this is when you start to scratch your head why Silen puts them all into the same basket).
FYI:
I am connecting 1 and 2 bar airports in Russia using the E75 enhanced in a Y36 Comfort Plus / C8 Lie Flat 140 configs. At an increase of 35%-50% of the normal ticket price, these routes earn me more than any half empty "green boxed" planes of yours. And they bring me good connecting passengers to my hub. But that is my particular scenario.
"Plain wrong statement"? Feel free to prove that I am wrong.
Feel free to test other scenarios. You will get the same results. I did it in the past and I'm tired to explain it.
To answer your question one of your many questions, I put everything above 45% winnings in that particular situation into a green bar.
I didn't provide the 320-enhanced version because it is not the kind airplane that Vanderpool was running in his company. I did, however, put the 320-neo version into the table because it might be interesting to see the newest airbus of that particular family.
I was trying to be helpful. No need to accuse me of making false claims. Which you still have to prove...yet. You are one of the most unfriendly guys I've ever met in airlinesim. Maybe you should think about how you are to other people.
If I make a claim, which may be false, simply tell me where you disagree, provide your facts and be neutral. Telling everyone that I am wrong without having proving that or providing any facts is Kindergarten. Do you think you can stay neutral?
I had to edit my post after initially raging when feeling personally attacked by your words.
This configuration (still 1245km) is with your seat configuration (given the case it's 100% economy, the simulator can't simulate different cabin types): Comfort plus, 143% price. I even compared your emb-175-enh with airplanes that had a similar amount of space or even less. In this case the ATR-72. Even then, the Embraer loses with only 35% margin to 43%. I even added the 320-light-enhanced to show you that it really doesn't make a difference. If you take another distance, the result will change slightly, but tendencies remain. Other Embraers than the E95 will lose against most of the more famous competitors.
I concur with Reto and I think Silen is providing somewhat misleading and incomplete information which can really confuse new players reading his posts.
It's just silly to put E195 and E135 into the same comparison. Please compare apples with apples and not with grapes.
You can compare E95 to CS1, E90 to CRK to SSJ, E75 to CR9, E70 to CR7 and E135 to CR2.
You can compare CS3 to A318 to B736, and A319 to B73G and A320 to B738 and A321 to B739.
Any other comparison is not really relevant.
Btw Embraers are very good airplanes, E95 is excellent, E90 is also very good and SR version flies form very small airports. CRJs have no comparable planes in CRJ maintenance category. While CR9 is better than E75, it's not by much, and the only lemon plane in Embraer family is E70. Also Embraers on average fly much farther than CRJs.
