Jan,
you think if we go on and on and on we'll be heard one day? :D *dreaming*
Was that a rhetorical question ?
If we go on and on, we whine :-)
Besides, it is easy for me (and you) to come up with solutions. If our solutions fail, we won't earn less money at the end of the month.
Jan
We know that problem very well but curently we don't see a point on how to scale down the demand without having a lot of airports left with no demand at all ;) I think a the moment we are all living with the higher increasing AGEX and that will turn down somewhen again. So personaly I'm waiting for the next thread in a few weeks stating that something had to be done due to the fact that the traditional old large airlines are going bancrupt and the player don't have to time to adjust all their fleet etc. ;)
So not answering in this thread doesn't mean that we don't read or think about this. It just means that we do not have a clear opinion or have other aspects in mind letting us wait before we make any decission or statement about this topic (or it is discusses in so many topics before ... well)
We know that problem very well but curently we don't see a point on how to scale down the demand without having a lot of airports left with no demand at all ;) I think a the moment we are all living with the higher increasing AGEX and that will turn down somewhen again. So personaly I'm waiting for the next thread in a few weeks stating that something had to be done due to the fact that the traditional old large airlines are going bancrupt and the player don't have to time to adjust all their fleet etc. ;)
So not answering in this thread doesn't mean that we don't read or think about this. It just means that we do not have a clear opinion or have other aspects in mind letting us wait before we make any decission or statement about this topic (or it is discusses in so many topics before ... well)
meantime you have things to do:
1. catch cheater
2. make random earthquake
AGEX instantly drop by 20-30%
- oil crisiss
- air traffic control strike
- Vulcan eruption (like Island few years ago)
3. you can restrict % of slots on HUB for some airline
when i form company and open office on some airport i will instant get xyz numbers of possible slots on that airport
if I redeem all available slots that is it
If i want more slots => buy slot with building Terminal (we know that all airports have some slots number for terminals)
and its real
ZAG - (Zagreb, Croatia), have one runaway with theoretical 900 flights per day
but airport have only 10-12 places for airplanes
So if you want to increase traffic you must build new Terminals, there no other way
(LHR have 5 terminals with reason)
4. If on some airport are all slots full including Terminals - make new options
new company can get one slot in day free
I know that can broke all schedules, but give options airlines to get some "fun and time"
example:
if you come late in game (or in some old server, all big popular airports are full 99,9999%)
there is no way to get slot
but if i get one slot like gift (i will stay in game and flight to not all time, but 1 day, or one flight in week)
its win-win
(big company lose nothing - and small and new get one little pieces of big cake, and fun and determination to stay in game)
Sometime I'm not sure if suggestions are serious or not :wacko:
Sometime I'm not sure if suggestions are serious or not :wacko:
I'm serious :)
question is how difficult is for developers...
4. If on some airport are all slots full including Terminals - make new options
new company can get one slot in day free
This can't be a serious suggestion.
Airline sim is a simulation. That means it tries to model reality.
How does it model reality by allowing 1200 airplanes to land at the same time at the same airport???
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You can help the team catch cheaters by reporting them
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AS is not about micro management so events such as those stated would not work in the present game. In terms of the AGEX been high you just have to look back about 6 months on this forum and a lot were complaining the AGEX was too low. Just wait for it to drop
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Building terminals does not mean extra slots, even in the real world. Did LHRs slots increase because T5 opened? In fact LHR only has 4 working terminals and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. slots are based on runways, layouts and taxiways. So the only increase in slots that could be possible due to new terminal is new taxiway. But then once the runways are full they are full (like at LHR). In fact to make the game more realistic there should be less slots at LHR as there is a night restriction in real life. There is only limited ammount of flights between midnight and 6.
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how is the suggestion true to real life. A new airline would never ever get slots at LHR. Instead they traditionally go to LGW or STN until slots are available. This tends to happen in AS. Eventually every airline disappears. So it’s a case of a waiting game with big airports. When I started in gatow I struggled to get slots at LGW. Eventually over time the big airline went and I was ready to move in. When I left pearls I was the biggest airline there. Same with Lhr in gatow. I’m now the biggest airline there, because airlines were shut down and I concentrated away from the biggest airports. Then I had the resources to move in when the biggest airline shut down
Ian
Yep. Strategy is the key. AS isn't Legos. It's Risk.
Nah... it's patience :P
@darky
When I read your "in the mean time..." post, I honestly thought you were joking. You very casually suggest things that would cause havoc in the (game) airline industry, and would cause a revolt on this forum. It must have looked like a nightmare scenario to Sascha :-)
Jan
@darky
When I read your "in the mean time..." post, I honestly thought you were joking. You very casually suggest things that would cause havoc in the (game) airline industry, and would cause a revolt on this forum. It must have looked like a nightmare scenario to Sascha :-)
Jan
well, look on this way...
read 2x or 3x what I wrote :huh:
then think, think, and think <_<
then you will realize idea :o
I know that some of my Ideas are extreme (or idea, or problem for development), but i never expect 100% to be accept.
and the end, if my post encourage debate, maybe from may impossible extreme idea we got something better and acceptable, I will be happy :excl: :)
Hi Darky,
I didn't want to offend you.
But I smiled when I read your post. You very casually told Sascha what he should be doing...
Things like strikes, vulcano eruptions and bad weather cannot be managed if you have a big airline. My Chinese airline is not a huge airline, but it is too big to manage if flights are cancelled because of - for example - smog in Peking. Within a few hours, I would have planes all over the country that are on the wrong airport to continue their schedule. It would take me half a day to reposition the planes so they can continue their schedules.
My airline would survive an oil crisis, or a sudden drop in passenger demand. But a lot of players would be very angry with the AS-team.
And while an extra terminal and extra parking space may increase the number of slots in Zagreb, in many other airports the available slots are mainly limited by the number of runways and the lay-out of the airport (having to backtrack on a runway, crossing runways and so on). By the way, if the tarmac in ZAG is only big enough for 12 plane, the number of slots in the game is very optimistic ;-)
Anyway, slots are the most important limited resource in the game. That is also the reason why some players are tempted to block slots on a new server. Hence my suggestion tor educe the number of passengers. But Sascha said that reducing passenger demand would leave some airports with very little demand. So that isn't a solution either...
Cheers,
Jan
We know that problem very well but curently we don't see a point on how to scale down the demand without having a lot of airports left with no demand at all ;) I think a the moment we are all living with the higher increasing AGEX and that will turn down somewhen again. So personaly I'm waiting for the next thread in a few weeks stating that something had to be done due to the fact that the traditional old large airlines are going bancrupt and the player don't have to time to adjust all their fleet etc. ;)
So not answering in this thread doesn't mean that we don't read or think about this. It just means that we do not have a clear opinion or have other aspects in mind letting us wait before we make any decission or statement about this topic (or it is discusses in so many topics before ... well)
Hmm... would scaling down demand result in Airports having no demand?
Plus, do you really mean you see no point in reducing demand or you dont see a way to implement it?
If you see no point then let me tell you that during the last AGEX downphase there were badly managed airlines still surviving because they could load up on tons of cash during the "easy" times.... everything remains so static.
Regarding people complaining about their airlines going bankrupt. They simply go bankrupt because they dont react to being oversized....that's why I suggested a game world with reduced demand. Airlines would not be "this" big....thousands of planes and all.