Triangular flights?

Hello everybody,

Am I correct in assuming that, so called, triangular flights are not possible in AS? E.g. AUH-AMS-CDG-AUH or AUH-AMS-LHR-AUH?

I mean, off course the flight will be performed, but I guess there will be no pax on the AMS-CDG or AMS-LHR segment? 

thanks

I'm not saying there will be passengers, but there could be. I assume your airline is based in AUH.

So it would be possible to book AUH-AMS-CDG or AMS-CDG-AUH. Only AMS-CDG will not be available for booking.

Alright, thank you for the fast reply. I will just give it a try and see how it works out.

Your one-stop flight will be at disadvantage compared to non-stop flights. Depending on cabin configuration, in-flight service and price, your non-stop flight can reach a maximum rating of 100 while your one-stop flight rating would be maxed out at 75. It could work for cargo though, but for passenger I don't think it's a good idea. 

You were absolutely right, it didn't work out that well so I had to rethink strategy. 

I have a couple of triangular flights that work well (HUB-A-B-HUB).

I use these for low demand regional routes (1 bar airports) where A & B are close to each other.  I also alternate the direction, so half the week it's HUB-A-B-HUB and the other half it's HUB-B-A-HUB.  Where used properly I am sold out on all legs, including A-B and B-A. 

In the real world triangular flights are common, especially on regional routes.

Yes Justin, but your triangular flights are in the same country, this is normal that you've got passengers on all segments  :)

I just wonder if  you operate triangular flights, you will do them all in different route numbers, which is 4 separate routes, or you will use the a via - route (Hub to B via A) and another route (B to Hub)?

I wonder if I got customers on board from for both A to B and Hub to B?

and will the demand or passenger getting the tickets be affected because you are not operating outbound flights from A to Hub and no inbound direct flights from Hub to B

justin.thomas7 probably needs to elaborate his scenario (I am interested how he solves triangular flights). 

I am usually solving this by using two routes:

- Route 1: HUB-A-B

- Route 2: B-HUB

However, justin.thomas7 thoughts are interesting: I might try to add two alternate routes to give a reverse flight option (i.e. HUB-B-A, and A-HUB). Now, if only I had enough metal to add the routes... :-)

So... in general, did I understand this right:

If I have a flight from Tokyo Haneda (HND) to Hong Kong (HKG) and would like to extend my HKG part of the flight By making an additional flight from HKG to somewhere close over there (say airport XXX), I have to do it By scheduling a flight from Haneda to airport XXX via HKG? Not By scheduling one flight HND-HKG and another one HKG-XXX  and XXX-HKG + HKG-HND?

Sorry to ask maybe stupid questions but I just wanna make this right.

Timo

CEO Black Watch Airlines

Croydon

Doesn't make a difference, if it's a via flight or two separate flights.

Passengers will be able to book HND-HKG and HND-HKG-XXX, but not HKG-XXX.

You can try it, but I doubt you'll get enough passengers to make it work.

If the "XXX"-airport is Japanese, it will be booked by passengers. 

Edit: So the route could be

Haneda - Hong Kong 

Hong Kong - Osaka

Osaka - Haneda

OK, thanx for replies. :)

Your one-stop flight will be at disadvantage compared to non-stop flights. Depending on cabin configuration, in-flight service and price, your non-stop flight can reach a maximum rating of 100 while your one-stop flight rating would be maxed out at 75. It could work for cargo though, but for passenger I don't think it's a good idea. 

Would a two-stop flight then have a Max. Rating of 50?