Don’t ever think I have liked as many replies as I have done in this post. George is completely right, doing adjustments to an already flawed system is nuts. I am all for a new ORS, which is what I have always advocated for when I was in the Development Advisory Team. In AS it’s a pretty standard solution to attempt small fixes and workarounds to a flawed system instead of redoing the system. Just look at the aircraft performance system.
If I wouldn’t already have quit such a change would have made me quit. I am all for a new functioning ORS and honestly if that happens I will return, but a small tweak isn’t a new ORS. It’s just a change which will deter large players, players which AS desperately needs.
Wait why the attack? All I did was ask the question, thanked martin for his reply and gave my opinion. Yet you attacked me lol, says a lot about you.
In typical fashion to these types of threads, none of your posts are constructive and none of them will make martin and the team more eager to make changes and make the game better, all they are are whining attacks on the game or poster.
The fact you later implied that economics dont change to back up your argument by belittling another poster is hilarious, saying that they obviously didnt major in any economics/business. Who are you to speak to anyone like that. For the record, are you saying that the aviation landscape is the same now as in 1980s? Give me a break, you’re hilarious.
P.s leaving worlds by giving your friends the airlines is exactly the effing problem with the older worlds in general. Ruining it for new players by giving the already established players the airlines and money that comes with it, making it harder for newer players to want to start in an older world. Its actions like that that have make the stock market (one of my favourite features) a mockery and why they are now deciding to remove it from newer worlds.
I am not sure if it is the players responsibility to make Martin eager to make changes or vice versa that Martin should motivate the players with updates to come/stay.
I am also wondering if handing all airlines to other players is the main objective of the game. If everybody did it we end up with only a hand full of players owning numerous companies of former players. No need to state, that AS tehn can no longer pay for the servers. Isn’t it the main objective to grow and actively manage a financially successful airline? So what is the deal in simply handing airlines over to other players that then naturally struggel in handling them actively. Or is it again just a matter of pleasing himself with the large numbers of passengers and AS$ on the bank account? If that is the case maybe it is time to face real life again and find some more pleasure there. And of course as the future owner most propably owns numerous large airlines he did not even found or grow we are back in the circle where it is argued that changes and updates are to time intensive to cope with… Maybe it is time to wonder what the root of the issue is instead of stupidly continuing to seek for more and more market shares and at the end blame AS for the disadvantages of the self invented playing strategy. Simply free the space for other players. In this regards I have to agree with SRNP, this way of playing, just like uselessly gathering flight rights in other countries through the stock market lead to a stock market nobody needs. The main objective of a stock market is ignored, it is just a place for cheating and handing money from one player to another.
I am sorry if you misunderstood. Taking over means growing organically. Flights I remove flights he adds. While I keep paying credits while reducing the airline size, this matter should not bother you. If you have not realized, simply handing over airline to others has not been possible for a few years now. And if a friend grows while I shrink, what’s wrong with that .
Looking at your constructions on e.g. Fornebu I realize, that you anyways find ways to hand over an airline…
What is wrong with that? Well, now there are 2 players that transport X passengers. You now handle over your flights to your friend that obviously is unable to expand on his own matter. At the end you transport the same amount of passengers with only 1 account. The consequence is the lower income for AS and then the costs for all players rise. That is exactly what you strongly criticise in your first post here without realizing that your gaming strategy is the reason for it!
Is there any reason, why your friend who is taking over is unable to use your former slots if you delete your airline right away? Is he that afraid of competitors, that you need to coordinate flight transfers to ensure nobody else on the server has the chance to benefit from your retreat? Aint that from your point of view blocking of resources, in this case slots, especially as you here said yourself that you are not intending to continue playing on that server?
No it’s not, the airline pays its daily credits and keeps operartng flights, no schedules are unactivated, every slot used and occupied is being flown on an appropriate aircraft and making money. That’s the exact definition of NOT-BLOCKING . You are trying to make me look bad or whatever, but it ain’t working.
What’s wrong is you are delibrately helping others, in fact I swear its not allowed in this game. If you cannot see why you doing that is bad, then help us all.
I actually urge moderators to check rubiohiguey2000s airlines for this…
Not really, am I? The point I am criticizing is not that you are hardly active, but that you are sure you are about to quit and just keep slots, fleet… to hand it all over to a buddy and avoid to give other players a chance to benefit from your retreat.
Additionally I am not really getting the point with complaining about increased credit costs and then not even play the accounts you have actively. That does not make any sense at all. Your increased costs in AS are more based on account mismanagement having numerous holdings on 2 servers but being only active on one. My good advise: Simply delete your holdings on one account and the credit consumption will decrease significantly. Additionally the server will be happy to offer active players options for a new start.
Where did you see I complained about credit consumption? Come on, you are now just making things up. If I was not willing to pay two server holdings at current increased consumption rate I would have deleted FBU a year ago…
Everyone, back to topic or this thread is closed. Feel free to discuss the merits of updating or not updating legacy game worlds, but keep personal attacks and allegations out of it.
No, it’s not cheating as long as separate users are involved. It’s not necessarily good style, of course. And if the player “receiving” the slots is a player that has been long established in the respective game world rather than a newcomer, the practice helps cementing the unfortunate situation of old game worlds (ever-decreasing player numbers and hence higher operating cost per active user).
If an old player is so Domininant that even if the giving player liquidated there would be no possibility for a new player to come in anyway (because the Dominican and other large players would just take piece of action within two to three weeks), and if the old staying player gets to set up a new holding and pays 4 more credits per day in additional country, that’s almost like a new player coming in.
There are several ways of thinking. Why don’t you just accept that he is doing it that way, Colt? It is not against the rules, hence just let him do it…
I have no issues with acepting it, but his excuses are simply totally unlogic and unreasonable. If even AS says that is not necessarily good style it is maybe time to review the decisions made.
Colt, over the coming weekend I will be releasing all slots in DTW on Fornebu. Feel free to start an airline in Detroit on Fornebu. Looks like that’s what you’re after.
And the one posting without logic is you, who keeps on mixing my Black Friday question with my ability to pay the credits. Google is your friend when you take a moment to investigate the argument fallacies you keep on committing. So far I counted Ad Hominem, Strawman, Bifurcation, Red herring, Causal … Just your “save money/Black Friday” comment had at least 3 of those: Strawman, Bifurcation and Causal.