Sorry Sascha, but AS was not able to find a solution to start a server organized. Although it is a well known case for years now and although there were enough proposals to handle it.
Let us know your ideas ... we are open for any. But all ideas do have disatvantages which you may also not want.
Let us know your ideas ... we are open for any. But all ideas do have disatvantages which you may also not want.
Maybe more realistic prices for aircraft? loans available for everybody up 10 million? with an interest rate (no higher loans available).
Two possibilities to draw on. The prices of the aircraft (as mentioned before) and the amount of passengers. But wrong topic.
Other people buy 732 \ 733 \ AB6 \ 757 \ 330, they are good. We bought 744, we are bad. This is your rule?Please answer my question clear, yes or no.I repeat, the real world there are antitrust laws, but AS does not. If you have any ideas, please give clear and fair rules. Nobody accused CX \ SQ \ EK \ QR monopoly, although they monopolized the domestic market.Also, I have another company using only MD11,757,767 and 738, all are "good airplane." Its profits are still more than 95 percent of the size of the players. it is now the assets of 387M. No 747, no small seat. This time, tell me what you're going to blame.
I'm not on Ellinikon, so I don't know what your "exploit" was this time around. I didn't say anywhere than any airplane was bad, I don't know where did you get that from, you should read again what I wrote. What I said, is exactly what you answered: In the real world there are antitrust laws, and there's a reason for that. In AS there aren't, because there never was the need for them. But now, because of you, there is. So don't complain about the rest of the players, who can't grow their companies because of you, to ask AS management to implement some kind of control. That's all I'm saying.
*lookingdown* possibly really thick - but yes I meant sick
It doesn't matter the type of aircraft - depending on the server the aircrafts are 747, Tu-204, 736, Avros ... Next time 717?
Everytime there are player exploiting the game mechanism at the beginning. In my eyes there's no difference between exploiting the programming, abusing the empty world at the beginning and cheating.
The sense of the game is to operate an airline as an enterprise based on reality. Not to behave surreal or absurd in order to grow as fast as possible.
Sorry Sascha, but AS was not able to find a solution to start a server organized. Although it is a well known case for years now and although there were enough proposals to handle it.
We and you play the same game, using the same tool "Aircraft type evaluation". Why you can not find the best airplanes?
Why you can not find the best airplanes?
Sorry, but that is not the question. If you have a bus simulation running local public busses and you buy a Ferrari with one passenger seat and the system allows you to grow with this faster there are two options: One may use this to grow as fast as possible, because he sees the challenge to become the number one. But this very unrealistic and is not the way 95% of the player would like it - to simulate the reality in some way. Guess why we do not have so many competitions on which the airlines are compared on their size...
So you shouldn't make statements "the other are clever enough" - especially not always living on the edge and already in some cases got deleted due to game rule violation (not meant @ckdrster, but in general to the top x player of the first weeks/months).
The best solution from my opinion is, like I've suggested before.
A. Keep freshing up relatively "young" old plane that the price is still "uncompetitive". As the rules of the market now, if the number of offers on sale/lease reach 50, no more new offer will be added. So if nobody buy/lease those planes in the first place, no cheap planes will be listed. It'd not be a “expensive to cheap“ sequence, after 50 or 60 "young" plane, the following ones would be listed randomly again.
or even easy solution
B. Increase the time between update of the aircraft market, at least in the beginning phrase of a new gameworld. If only 2 or 3 used 747-F showed up per day, it'd slow everybody down dramaticlly, and would force a lot of players turn to the brand new plane
btw, does the market still scrap the unwanted plane now?.
The best solution from my opinion is, like I've suggested before.
A. Keep freshing up relatively "young" old plane that the price is still "uncompetitive". As the rules of the market now, if the number of offers on sale/lease reach 50, no more new offer will be added. So if nobody buy/lease those planes in the first place, no cheap planes will be listed. It'd not be a “expensive to cheap“ sequence, after 50 or 60 "young" plane, the following ones would be listed randomly again.
or even easy solution
B. Increase the time between update of the aircraft market, at least in the beginning phrase of a new gameworld. If only 2 or 3 used 747-F showed up per day, it'd slow everybody down dramaticlly, and would force a lot of players turn to the brand new plane
btw, does the market still scrap the unwanted plane now?.
I see a another option, after a certain size a holding can't buy used aircraft with their massive cash reserves and are forced into buying/leasing new aircraft. In that way new companies still could have access to older, used planes on the market...
Perfect situation would be a mix of all three options which are above...
I see a another option, after a certain size a holding can't buy used aircraft with their massive cash reserves and are forced into buying/leasing new aircraft. In that way new companies still could have access to older, used planes on the market...
Perfect situation would be a mix of all three options which are above...
If you are talking about the low asset cost old aircraft, that's neither solving the underlying problem of early growth through using used aircraft (as you aim to regulate holdings with a certain size), nor does it help later on, as the contribution of used aircraft to developed holdings performance is insignificant.
If it comes to younger, less beneficial used aircraft, I don't really see why established companies shouldn't have access to the used market. This would eliminate an important part of the game and a good portion of dynamics in later stages of a game world.
Sorry Sascha, but AS was not able to find a solution to start a server organized. Although it is a well known case for years now and although there were enough proposals to handle it.
Sorry, but I have to disagree on this point for one game world; Aspern was a good and equal start for everyone. I think the main "problem" is the second hand aircraft market. I really loved and still love to play on Aspern.
At Ellinikon I started a successful airline as well, BUT the big problem we all have now is that there are no more second hand aircraft available on most common types.