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no, when time comes time to pay your leases, if you default on those the aircraft will be returned and you would get back your down payment minus the lease payment
If you can't pay the leasing cost, the plane will be returned and you get back the security deposit minus the weekly leasing fee.
If you can't pay the weekly salaries, then you'll probably (not guaranteed) get a rescue loan - which comes at a high interest. After 3 times in a row you will go bankrupt.
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You can't store the seats somewhere... Unfortunately, they are gone.
If it's cost you the game over one aircraft it is due to a lack of financial planning, not a click. To be honest if one aircraft is going to make your company not profitable anymore then your company is not worth saving...
Basically your seats are thrown away lets hope that the materials are recycled and not just waisted ;).
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Your image will not drop because of this, I can assure you so ?
You could have ordered multiple ATR72 and fly from some medium size regional airport, 5 round trips per day per aircraft and with that to have many routes to schedule and manage.
You chose to order one single widebody to operate one single round trip per week.
The choice of gameplay and strategy was yours only.
It was kind of gambling...
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Not really because in such case Most likely only one of the ATRs would be returned to lessor and the returned deposits would pay for the lease of the other aircraft. Each aircraft lease payment is a sequence, so ifposition 1 gets a deposit returned, position 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 can use the money from deposit return proceeds.
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I just made a test and I see what is in attachment.
But it doesn’t matter, the point is my previous post.
There is still a sequence and that sequence can be seen in cash flow statement. If you cannot get this basic point, I am off an maybe someone else can explain it to you better.
I started with one B787 on 2nd December for long haul routes (as many others). So I had wait two weeks to lease another plane. I knew it.
It was "a click", because I can not put it back, even one second later. If it was a possibility to withdraw immediately from new leasing contract I signed by "the click" (with some penalty, of course), I did it. But no such option is here.
I had NET profit approximately 320,000 AS$ daily with margin 63%.
Now I have only one plane I ordered on delivery in a hour. I have lost cabin equipment (or money for it) and also money for leasing I already paid.
If I put the new plane to routes, I shall wait at least three days to earn some profit - I see terrifying image drop right now.
I need 800,000 AS$ to lease second aircraft again, but next Friday I have to pay another 800,000 AS$ for Week-end closing and Leasing.
So if things go well, I will be able to order my 2nd plane again on 25DEC.
This is the reason I wrote "cost me all game". Because I just don't want to wait another week or more, do nothing and pay 4 credits for this nothing daily.
I'm sorry but you seem to make out that it is a technical fault with the game. By making one click you have potentially caused you airline to go bust = User Interface / Technical error. What actually happened was a human error, because given the same information / feeling you had when you first pressed the button, you would still make the same mistake. Therefore ultimately it is a YOU problem not technical problem so lets stop with that.
If you believe that it has cost you the game you can always restart.
Rubio is 100% correct, and as a similar experienced player I agree. Your strategy is highly risky and by putting all your eggs in one basket you have to manage it properly. Very simply if you had 8x aircraft, and you ordered one extra when you could, the CHANCES are you would only loose 1 aircraft, so only 1/9 of your fleet, no big deal. Your strategy has left you loosing 1/2 of your fleet effectively so yes big deal. So again can be done but must be managed well. If you didn't manage it well then your fault and no one elses.
Time zones I don't see as an argument, I run in Malaysia, and live in the UK. If you use the upcoming events, and check it vs the hub time, which is located on the bottom bar ...mere milometers away you can tell. As a general suggestion, I will always try and make sure I have money in the bank for all upcoming events...and get very nervous if I screw up and don't. Some times I still loose an aircraft, and some times I take an emergency loan, it happens. I don't complain that its a fault with the game though...
There is still a sequence and that sequence can be seen in cash flow statement. If you cannot get this basic point, I am off an maybe someone else can explain it to you better.
I'm sorry but you seem to make out that it is a technical fault with the game. By making one click you have potentially caused you airline to go bust = User Interface / Technical error. What actually happened was a human error, because given the same information / feeling you had when you first pressed the button, you would still make the same mistake. Therefore ultimately it is a YOU problem not technical problem so lets stop with that.
If you believe that it has cost you the game you can always restart.
Rubio is 100% correct, and as a similar experienced player I agree. Your strategy is highly risky and by putting all your eggs in one basket you have to manage it properly. Very simply if you had 8x aircraft, and you ordered one extra when you could, the CHANCES are you would only loose 1 aircraft, so only 1/9 of your fleet, no big deal. Your strategy has left you loosing 1/2 of your fleet effectively so yes big deal. So again can be done but must be managed well. If you didn't manage it well then your fault and no one elses.
Time zones I don't see as an argument, I run in Malaysia, and live in the UK. If you use the upcoming events, and check it vs the hub time, which is located on the bottom bar ...mere milometers away you can tell. As a general suggestion, I will always try and make sure I have money in the bank for all upcoming events...and get very nervous if I screw up and don't. Some times I still loose an aircraft, and some times I take an emergency loan, it happens. I don't complain that its a fault with the game though...I do not know how to close this toppic
I do not know, how to close this toppic.
I do not need to read how stupid I am again.
So if you want to write more, tell me just about this:
There was holding with headquarter in Manchester, UK in last Quimby. The holding had subsidiary, which was healthy and growing. But the player did not cared about the mother holding - which had some expenses too. And so it happened, the holding got a rescue loan 3x. The player knew that, he was here every day. And according to game rules, instead fourth rescue loan the holding went to bankruptcy. With its subsidiary - the big and wealthy airline. Everything was lost...
Until..... Until the big company appeared again in Manchester with all aircraft and money two days later! Due to the intervention of administrators.
I used both official support and this forum and I asked the same question: are all players equal here? Or are the rules just for someone and others can do anything? Was the player good friend of some important person here?
I didn't receive any response, so I skipped the game and closed my account.
And now you guys, can you see the difference? I made one(!) stupid click and I lost everything. The player I write about, he was warned 3 times by rescue loans, but he was awarded and he kept smiling.
If you don't remember this case, look around this forum. Some crumbs maybe left here, as I was not only one surprised player.
1. you cannot close a thread. You can only edit your comments.
2. why are you repeating what you already have written?
3. in real life, if you have no money to pay the rent what will happen then? You ask your bank to give you some money on credit. They will ask for some safeties. If you can't show these, the bank will also not give you money. That's how it is.
Nobody is saying that you are stupid. But it is infact your fault - you are responsible for the company, nobody else is.
So take it not too serious, all of us has happened this.
So from what I remember about this case and I will also note the differences...
- LARGE company (more than one aircraft)
- DOUBTS on if messages were sent / warned (warned of price of taking out new lease)
- It was found that it would be UNREALISTIC for a large company to go bust because the holding company had no capital (one aircraft doubling fleet to early = go bust = realistic...but note you haven't actually gone bust)
- It was also NOTED that this is likely to be a one off and to be seen as a warning to all players
Are all players treated equal...absolutely as long as they abide by the rules. Should everyone get constant do overs? No way...why? Where do you draw the line? I accidentally leased an aircraft that I cant afford? I accidentally cancelled a flight can you reinstate it? I didn't notice an aircraft hasn't arrived in the right place?