So now I have just set up a new airline, and would like to try to use the departure wave mode in my new hub. However, with the flight to the closest large city costing 3 hours and the closest large city on the other side of the ocean costin 7 hours, and with 1hour turn around time, it basically mean I cannot set more than one connection wave per day and that wave can only be one sided as (3+1+7+1)*2 is already 24 hours and that is only the two closest big destinations, which mean my first plane would departure at 00:00 for the closest city on one side and arrive at 07:00 then depart for closest city on the other side at 08:00 and return at 23:00. Flying to any other large city on the first side would require more time so if the flight depart at 00:00 then the return flight will not be able to return before 07:00. Likewise, Flying to any other large city on the other side would require more time so any flight depart at 08:00 won't be able to return by 23:00. This also mean any aircrafts flying to farther side can only make one return trip everyday as there are no other suitable destination that can allow the aircraft to complete one round within remainder of a day and that lead to 300+% maintenance ratio. Or how about give up the concept of "week" and schedule aircrafts base on 28-hours or 42-hours period (or 56-hours or 5*33-hours with 3-hours "lost-time"/shabbat every week)? but that would be a pain to adjust and also make it hard to avoid night curfew or congested slot. So, how could I make the departure wwave system work in this case?
I would suggest restarting your airline in a country with short haul large city connections providing you with good passenger feed from both your domestic and international routes
Hi Qunow.
I would suggest not taking advice from someone that has never had an airline last more than 2 days. Which country are you aiming to fly from as a base and I will have a look?
that is not true btw why not get you facts right, plus look at my current airlines you knob
You have one airline that has lasted 5 days. Congrats… the other is one day old. This goes on the list of other failures within a few days.You have also stolen one logo from another player in another world. You cannot tell as a beginner if your airline is successful or not until end of week 2 when you have had to pay all payments in one working week (staff cost and leasing). suggesting to other players when you have never had a successful airline is not helpful.
Also there is no need to lower yourself to name calling and using offensive words on the forum.
I'm trying to use ANC as hub and connect passengers between Lower 48 and NE Asia.
Cool, give me an hour
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Just leave me alone, I was trying to offer advice as a captain myself in the real world, with easyJet. So why don't you be a good kid and go away and shut up
Just leave me alone, I was trying to offer advice as a captain myself in the real world, with easyJet. So why don't you be a good kid and go away and shut up
Ah ok we believe you. :wacko:
LOL...
Ah ok we believe you. :wacko:
Believe what you want
Just leave me alone, I was trying to offer advice as a captain myself in the real world, with easyJet. So why don't you be a good kid and go away and shut up
Appropriate conduct is also a large part of being a captain. I have myself flown some jump seat flights even with EasyJet once, and I know what crew standards they have and also that in order to get the flying hours to be a captain one needs to be at least over thirty and you just dont show such a maturity. I am not either over thirty but I try to not seem like I am five.
Believe what you want
You believe you operate on an aircraft that the airline doesnt operate.
Going back to the thread...
QuNow!
ANC is a challenge. You would be best starting up a hub and spoke regionally, then slowly expand into long haul. Starting straight away is far too risky. Everyone has their hub and spoke system. The issue you have with hub and spoke is that your aircraft are utilised badly compared to running flights straight after each other. Personally I use 6 waves a day, this allows for aircraft to be used reasonably well utilized. This also means that passengers usually have two waves to choose to depart on. Of course as you know you must land and leave a minimum connection time to allow passengers to connect. My initial departures would be use for exam 00XX,04XX,08XX,12XX,16XX,20XX. Arrivals would use the hours (typically) 02XX,06XX,10XX,14XX,18XX,22XX. I find if I have less waves then aircraft become utilized worse with long stops, and as you discovered a 300% maintenance ratio.
After I have built up a solid short haul network (I define it as <2400nm), I start to build long haul. Start with something with good range but narrow body. B737-700 or A319 for example, fit really comfy seats, and people will come. In terms of scheduling the ideal way at the moment is to have 7 aircraft, doing the same thing just one day off. With the 6 waves you are likely to be able to get a maintenance ratio down to 100-200% with long haul aircraft. This unfortunately requires money!
If you are dead set on ANC start with internal Alaska flights, my top 20 flights to start, no matter what scenario I use are domestic, and within state. I appreciate you are thinking of starting something akin to Icelandair, but the pacific is too big. If you want examples of waves check out any of my airlines in meigs. If you want screeshots of flight plans etc then just let me know
You believe you operate on an aircraft that the airline doesnt operate.
Going back to the thread...
QuNow!
ANC is a challenge. You would be best starting up a hub and spoke regionally, then slowly expand into long haul. Starting straight away is far too risky. Everyone has their hub and spoke system. The issue you have with hub and spoke is that your aircraft are utilised badly compared to running flights straight after each other. Personally I use 6 waves a day, this allows for aircraft to be used reasonably well utilized. This also means that passengers usually have two waves to choose to depart on. Of course as you know you must land and leave a minimum connection time to allow passengers to connect. My initial departures would be use for exam 00XX,04XX,08XX,12XX,16XX,20XX. Arrivals would use the hours (typically) 02XX,06XX,10XX,14XX,18XX,22XX. I find if I have less waves then aircraft become utilized worse with long stops, and as you discovered a 300% maintenance ratio.
After I have built up a solid short haul network (I define it as <2400nm), I start to build long haul. Start with something with good range but narrow body. B737-700 or A319 for example, fit really comfy seats, and people will come. In terms of scheduling the ideal way at the moment is to have 7 aircraft, doing the same thing just one day off. With the 6 waves you are likely to be able to get a maintenance ratio down to 100-200% with long haul aircraft. This unfortunately requires money!
If you are dead set on ANC start with internal Alaska flights, my top 20 flights to start, no matter what scenario I use are domestic, and within state. I appreciate you are thinking of starting something akin to Icelandair, but the pacific is too big. If you want examples of waves check out any of my airlines in meigs. If you want screeshots of flight plans etc then just let me know
To maybe expand on this a little bit: People tend to seriously underestimate the value of flying to the smaller markets, especially in environments like Alaska, Ontario, Quebec, the NWT etc where a large proportion of the traffic is going to be aimed just at the regional centres - in practice, internal to a state, or maybe to the next one over. Remember that if you can get 50 people a day going from Anchorage to, I dunno, Nelson Lagoon, they pay just as much as 50 people going to Tokyo (relative to distance, obv.) So - if you're set on Alaska, you'd probably have a better time picking up a bunch of cheap DHC-8s or something, making a network out of all the scrubby little fields noone else flies to (you'll probably break even with about 12 flying hours per day, so as long as you can manage that you'll probably be ok) and then adding a few mainline aircraft to link up SEA, PDX, SFO etc to your flights going out into the middle of nowhere. Won't be a quick start, and someone could easily come sit on your face and ruin it, but you'll get people in - probably more than you expect.
I have ANC as one of my hubs and I am connecting all the small airports in Alaska - litterally all (possible at least). Works very well.
humm... here comes the problem that all other airport in Alaska with at least 3 bar and most of those 2-bar airports are already connected to ANC by a major competitior. I just picked the server with most available slot at ANC but apparently that also mean a fair amount of passenger competition to any larger destinations within the US.Might be I can start with connecting smaller destinations in Canada..
And the cheapest Dash 8 here on UM cost 1.1M (only slightly cheaper than new) for lease deposit while SSJ cost 1.4M (no UM)....quite a few ATR but their range and speed...
btw about seat comfort, would it be too much to use comfort plus for Y + recliner longhaul for C on 739ER.....for flight with 7-8 hr length
Going into long haul with no short haul is usually very ill advised. Looking at ANC wiki there are no trans pacific passenger flights so that suggests direct demand is close to zero, hence why your looking at connections. So your thinking similar to LAX-ANC-NRT. Issue is your going to be competing with everyone going LAX-NRT plus those offering connections already.
Everyone has their own preferences, my model is I would say it is not enough...
I also had a competitor in ANC but I offered better service and better seats - we can both live with it.
Going for longhaul - I would not recommend. Even Canada took quite some time until the planes were filling.
Just leave me alone, I was trying to offer advice as a captain myself in the real world, with easyJet. So why don't you be a good kid and go away and shut up
You're a captain then, could you please explain me what's the matrix...
I'm trying to use ANC as hub and connect passengers between Lower 48 and NE Asia.
Try FAI, not ANC. FAI is more central. Transfer and turnaround are better. And you have more slots available.