Please, teach me how to play.

This has gotten out of hand. I agree with both sides. I made a post yesterday but deleted it. Yes, leasing planes out between companies does happen in the real world, there are always bigger companies looking out for each other, as they say its who you know and all that.

However 94 planes worth nearly 200million in 18 days is a kick in the teeth when a newish player will take up to 6 months minimum (thats if they get it the profit to do it) to even have 50 planes of the same calibre. What ever anyone says, whoever got those 94 planes definitely got an advantage over most players and to play it down as “its allowed” doesnt change that fact. If it was 15-20 planes, or a few planes, thats fine. But 94? 94??? No that is clear collusion and favouritism to whoever started that airline up. You cannot kid anyone , there was a conversation between these two CEOs that said something like “Mate give us a load of planes, lets destroy this market” “yeah sure lad, Ill give you all I can for nothing!!! interline with me and we will lead this game world!”. The fact its two “staff members”? (UAB and AS? I am not sure what they mean) does lead me to believe that these are are good mates and having some fun. I doubt who gave those 94 planes away was really doing it to make money for his own airline nor do I suspect they would give a newbie like me 94 planes straight away. It’s common sense. 

That said however! Its allowed and it does happen in real life. Business is not meant to be easy. In fact if AS lost this side of the game it would take out a massive realism aspect that I enjoy. Personally I do not mind what has happened here, but please call it what it is, there was two people who knew each other and one gave a lot of planes to the other for nothing. If it happens to you in your game world, where another airline sets up with a massive fleet instantly, dont rage, battle them or work with them! or work with their main competitors. Don’t bitch and moan! 

 

We are not talking about 94 cheap planes here. Please check the fleetlist before you assume something which is not true.

We are not talking about 94 cheap planes here. Please check the fleetlist before you assume something which is not true.

I just read the thread, what is it about then! ? And whose fleetlist?

I just read the thread, what is it about then! ? And whose fleetlist?

A fleet list of D.N. on Aspern. It’s actually only 78 aircraft.

78 planes leased out cheaper and not 94 planes.

A fleet list of D.N. on Aspern. It's actually only 78 aircraft.

To be fair 78 doesnt seem that bad does it? where did 94 come from then? It happens in the real world. 

94 was the total number of aircraft, including those leased directly from AS:

I mean forming relationships in business is key. If youre smart enough to get friends in the game then so be it. 78 is still a lot of planes to get so quickly for so cheap. But I bet if a life long friend of Martin O Leahry (Ryanair) asked for 50 737s they would come to an arrangement. 

I mean forming relationships in business is key. If youre smart enough to get friends in the game then so be it. 78 is still a lot of planes to get so quickly for so cheap. But I bet if a life long friend of Martin O Leahry (Ryanair) asked for 50 737s they would come to an arrangement. 

Exactly. And the funniest thing is that the biggest moaning voice is still more than 10 times bigger in terms of fleet. If I were in that spot, I would be flattered that someone needs so much help to fight me. And I would fight back, not cry back.

Exactly. And the funniest thing is that the biggest moaning voice is still more than 10 times bigger in terms of fleet. If I were in that spot, I would be flattered that someone needs so much help to fight me. And I would fight back, not cry back.

Thank you very much, odrzutowiec! He has a great answer for topic owner. :wub:  No reason for further discussion!

*topic closed*

I reported Denver Northern. I’m waiting an official decision about this case. Who will be the

judges? Spezialist and Highscore? As a paid costumer, i want a decision from the Simulogics owners. We need a clear decision.

If you report a team member then it gets handled by a different team member. If it makes it to UAB (highly doubtful) then the UAB member will not be able to take part

You may have noted that I am not team member and not working for AS. Hence I will not judge on that case as long as it does not come in front of UAB. Also in this case, as involved player, I would not judge.

I'm sure AS Support will be thrilled to answer another report, after the report by ImperatorNero/viennabert had been cleared...

It's been stated by various people here that there's nothing wrong with private leasing contracts and others have been using it as well. Your report won't change anything about that. There's no "cler decision" to be made, when it's already as clear as it could be.

I reported Denver Northern. I'm waiting an official decision about this case. Who will be the

judges? Spezialist and Highscore? As a paid costumer, i want a decision from the Simulogics owners. We need a clear decision.

Nothing will come of it.  This is a situation that should not be allowed to happen in the future.  However you will not see a change, as members of the UAB, the AS team, or the "inner circle" that can't be on the UAB because of being caught cheating benefit from it.  Their only concern is gameplay that negatively effects them.

After all, if CBE can't get NEOs for 20%, how can he brag to us about his quick growth and high profit margins?

UAB members are voted for by the players....don't like the member, don't vote for them. or run against?

Can we stop this rubbish of inner circle, it's getting offensive

I reported Denver Northern. I'm waiting an official decision about this case. Who will be the

judges? Spezialist and Highscore? As a paid costumer, i want a decision from the Simulogics owners. We need a clear decision.

How old are you? Your airline is only 1 month old and you have very big mouth that you know all the best *wow*

Please looking for mentor, that is what you need, not to do foolish show in this topic.

UAB members are voted for by the players....don't like the member, don't vote for them. or run against?

Can we stop this rubbish of inner circle, it's getting offensive

Yes! Look my posting #169, I said topic is closed, but who has ignored it? That envious gamer elsonjr! I believe he only is here to search someone, who can change his baby wrap, else he wont write further shits.

Dear Friend,

I will lease you a bunch of planes for your new airline and even willing to help you, but must be on Templehof.  else i can help.

Mike

PS mail in ingame

UAB members are voted for by the players....don't like the member, don't vote for them. or run against?

Can we stop this rubbish of inner circle, it's getting offensive

You find the inner circle comment offensive, but remained silent on Rubio's blatant personal attacks on Nero?  Thank you for making my point.

I am sorry it you are offended, but sometimes the truth hurts.  This case reinforces my opinion of the circle.  As I already pointed out, several have tried to defend the cheap leases here, as that is how it happens in "real life".  Those same individuals were against loosing the large regional jet slot restrictions, even after shown real life examples of those flights.  Hypocritical at best, down right shady at worst.

How old are you? Your airline is only 1 month old and you have very big mouth that you know all the best *wow*

Please looking for mentor, that is what you need, not to do foolish show in this topic.

Yes! Look my posting #169, I said topic is closed, but who has ignored it? That envious gamer elsonjr! I believe he only is here to search someone, who can change his baby wrap, else he wont write further shits.

Oh look, more personal insults.  And who liked the post?  The person that was "offended" by the inner circle comment.....

You find the inner circle comment offensive, but remained silent on Rubio's blatant personal attacks on Nero?  Thank you for making my point.

I can assume you were the first one to of pressed the report button? Or did you not bother?

So your "unbiased" agenda is against anyone who decided against a problem that has existed in AS for many many years?

By the way I liked the bottom part of the post as he agreed with me? Something wrong with that?