Hi there !
I have started my airline two weeks ago and hired a A330-200. But till now i am still in deficit and cant even make a profit. I operated routes from HK - LHR, HK - JFK, HK - MAN and return routes. The passenger load rate is always around 30 %, but i have checked that the overall rating is fine. I now only have 1450000 AS in hand and the rating drops to CCC. Could anyone help me ? What should i do ? :(
Thanks a lot ! :mellow:
And could anyone please suggest me some routes or methods that i could at least break even ? I am confused :wacko:
Hello and welcome to AS.
I'd like to refer you to this topic -> http://community.airlinesim.aero/topic/4722-best-start/?hl=+don#entry35697 as it should pretty much answer the questions you might have right now, but basically - you need to start small. Lease some Dash 8s or CRJs and start there. Once you've grown large enough and your HUB is well established, you can start widebody longhaul flights.
Hi there !
I have started my airline two weeks ago and hired a A330-200. But till now i am still in deficit and cant even make a profit. I operated routes from HK - LHR, HK - JFK, HK - MAN and return routes. The passenger load rate is always around 30 %, but i have checked that the overall rating is fine. I now only have 1450000 AS in hand and the rating drops to CCC. Could anyone help me ? What should i do ? :(
Thanks a lot ! :mellow:
simply, new A330 is overkill if you don't have own airplane - leasing and fuel are to expensive
build A2xx fleet, earn money and buy A330 for cash, then you will blow in water competition
So should I liquidate or continue the current one? Because I have not much money left...
WTF is HK ???
If you have A330 you not flight local <1000 km route its overkill
Use A330 for LHR-JFK
LHR- ATL
LHR-DFW
LHR-BOS
ets...
A330 is for long distance 6-8 hours flight
For local lines you have A32x (B737) or basic Dash 8
I think the OP said HK to LHR and by HK I understand "Hong Kong", so using A330 on those routes would not be an overkill IF he had connecting traffic. But as anew airline most likely cannot get sufficient pax to fly those routes profitably.
Thanks for your reply.
Now i started a new business and i leased 5 Q400s operating short routes. I fully arranged the schedule for each flight however only one of those flight route is fully booked. I get 0 booking for all the others. What could i do?
And also i found that although i have set up my own cabin configurations, it didn't apply to some routes. For example, my configuration is 52 for economy and 12 for business class. But some routes only have a few seats or even zero.
It seems that I tried to look up for answers in the wiki but failed. Could someone please help me ?
And sorry for my poor English.
Sorry, but may I ask server and airline?
Please wait for one day. To reduce stress on the server, an airport will generate passengers once every 24 hours. It may just be that only one airport has gone through its calculation so far. The passengers will book from their city to another, taking whatever connections are available. This is why there’s often a couple of seats sold, but then a rush of sales to fill your plane.
If your planes offer fewer seats than you have installed, then you are operating to load-restricted airports. Check the distances between two cities and the runway length at both airports. If the distances between cities is too great, then the plane needs to carry more fuel instead of passengers. For a Q400-A, the plane can fly 1850km without problems, but between 1850-4180km, you may need to reduce passenger weight or you won’t be able to carry enough fuel. Use the Performance Check Tool to see the calculated payload for any two cities, a passenger is worth 95kg. Another problem is runway length. A Q400-A can operate to airports with a runway as short as 1090m, but if the runway is less than 1370m, you’ll have to carry less weight in order to take off and land. This means carrying fewer passengers.
When you operate a load-restricted flight, the system takes care of implementing the weight restrictions by reducing cargo capacity first, then it moves on to reducing your economy seats, before business class seats and finally first class seats. A Q400 doesn’t have any cargo capacity, which means that your economy seats go first. The seats are still installed on the plane, they just can’t be sold.
Please wait for one day. To reduce stress on the server, an airport will generate passengers once every 24 hours. It may just be that only one airport has gone through its calculation so far. The passengers will book from their city to another, taking whatever connections are available. This is why there's often a couple of seats sold, but then a rush of sales to fill your plane.
If your planes offer fewer seats than you have installed, then you are operating to load-restricted airports. Check the distances between two cities and the runway length at both airports. If the distances between cities is too great, then the plane needs to carry more fuel instead of passengers. For a Q400-A, the plane can fly 1850km without problems, but between 1850-4180km, you may need to reduce passenger weight or you won’t be able to carry enough fuel. Use the Performance Check Tool to see the calculated payload for any two cities, a passenger is worth 95kg. Another problem is runway length. A Q400-A can operate to airports with a runway as short as 1090m, but if the runway is less than 1370m, you’ll have to carry less weight in order to take off and land. This means carrying fewer passengers.
When you operate a load-restricted flight, the system takes care of implementing the weight restrictions by reducing cargo capacity first, then it moves on to reducing your economy seats, before business class seats and finally first class seats. A Q400 doesn’t have any cargo capacity, which means that your economy seats go first. The seats are still installed on the plane, they just can’t be sold.
Thanks for your information ! Will it be possible if i operate 5 Q400s with the same route just say from HKG to MNL ? Will the load rate decrease if I increase the flight frequency ?
Sorry, but may I ask server and airline?
I am in croydon. HK express airways :)
The situation is like this. Thanks
just some short notes from my side. There are more experienced players here:
1st. keep your maintance level close to 100 %.
2nd concentrate on few routes from and to your hub (HKG). Like HKG-Manilia-HKG or HKG-PVG-HKG. You have more offices than I have but I operate 30 planes at the moment.
3rd trial and error: try routes for at least a week. If they are not profitable close them and try another route.
4th look for a less competitive airport as a hub. Look for one that has a lot of slots left.
Good advices.
…try routes for at least a week
IMO patience is a very important factor when it comes to airlinesim. The real demand of a particular route is often not obvious after 24 hours. Many factors play an important role: General demand between two particula cities, connecting traffic which has to "discover" the new route with the possibility to connect and the fares set. Good IL-partners also contribute to nice connecttions. Adjustments of fares are often a very good way to improve load-factors.
Your flight from Phuket to Taichung is load-restricted, the rest of them haven’t gone through calculations at the departure airports yet, or you don’t have the rights to sell tickets for those flights.
Next topic of discussion will be traffic rights; the game simulates real-world conditions by only allowing you to transport passengers within and to/from your Head Office’s country. There are certain exceptions (EU treaty for EU countries, Oceanic Open Skies Treaty for Australia/NewZealand, Yam-mousse for Southern Africa) but these exceptions only apply to local airlines scheduling flights within the confines of the treaty area. You can still transport cargo and schedule flights even if you don’t have the rights to sell passenger tickets.
HKG and MFM don’t appear to be a part of China, my test HKG-registered airline didn’t have passenger rights to operate MFM-Mainland. This is further backed up by their entry in the country list, where both appear as “China - Hong Kong” instead of being a subterritory of China. This means that you can only operate passenger flights to and from HKG. You can still schedule planes between two non-HKG airports, but you won’t be able to sell seats to passengers.
The main problem there is that you have planned flights you have not the rights for.
Your hub is obviously in HKG (B-XXX registrated plane), so just fly HKG to MNL and back and such routes. Phuket - Taichung etc. are flights you cannot operate with passengers.
Thanks !! Now i will change all my routes to HKG - others.
The main problem there is that you have planned flights you have not the rights for.
Your hub is obviously in HKG (B-XXX registrated plane), so just fly HKG to MNL and back and such routes. Phuket - Taichung etc. are flights you cannot operate with passengers.
Sorry but once again i need some help.
So now i have been operating routes HKG-MNL-HKG, HKG-TPE-HKG, HKG-KHH-HKG.
But i realized that only routes from MNL-HKG, TPE-HKG, KHH-HKG are operating well. Routes starting from HKG have zero load. Did i make something wrong or did i miss something ? What should I do ?
Thanks !
Yep, you just have to wait until the demand HKG is calcluated too ;)