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Anyone willing to take a look at my airline on Pearls and offer advice?

New player who has read the beginner posts and watched the videos......

Just want to see if there is anything I can be doing better.

Thanks.

I suppose you are Peregrine Airlines based out of South Africa. Not an easy market, because of its Geographic location. I do not see much signs of wave systems, you should try to schedule your flights in wave systems as much as possible. Now if you get good domestic loads, you can schedule them without much wave factoring in, but you should keep in mind that for international you would need waves so you should structure all your arrivals and departures as close to the selected wave times as possible.

@rubiohiguey2000 ... don't tell him too much ... he is my competitor :)

Anyone willing to take a look at my airline on Pearls and offer advice?

New player who has read the beginner posts and watched the videos......

Just want to see if there is anything I can be doing better.

Thanks.

Grab 2-3 jet aircraft with 70-100 seats capacity - like the larger CRJ, SSJ or even small 737 depending on what the aircraft market offers (not playing on pearls right now, so I dont know). Get them some comfy seats in both Business and Economy - service should also be around 4bar. Plan them on the JNB-CPT route, with around 3 round trips per day. Adjust the price so that everything gets you a rating of around 100 on the ORS. This should get you a secure seatload of a 100% with some 20% profit margin. Pay your staff well so that your image increases, allowing you to raise your prices even further. Lease additonal planes and put them on the same route until you fly at hourly intervals, then add DUR-JNB. The demand on these routes is so large that you can easily grow - however apart from the main triangle (JNB,DUR,CPT) there is little traffic - so your opporunitites are limited, since rainer is pretty much omnipresent there. Nevertheless growing a high frequency "springbok route" airline should be a nice beginner task to keep you busy for the next 3-4 months ;)

Thanks guys. I do have a a rough 3 wave system, but with the open capacity, I have bee adding extra flights in between. I have tried to keep my non-domestic to the 3 waves. I will take another look an see what is happening with this.

Rainer, I don't think you have to worry too much about me. :)

I would personally recommend waves each 6 hours that way you will have all 24 hours covered including the minimum connection times.

Hi all, I know I’m a little late to the thread, but was wondering if the above offers for support were still valid? I’m pretty new, but I’ve been reading the forums and I watched the tutorials. Enjoying the game but still not sure how to translate what I’ve learned… I’ve got two companies right now (kind of expecting at least one to fall apart pretty soon ha-ha) I’m in SIN on Stapleton, and HAV on Kaitak. Would love some help with either. Thanks!

Hey there,

If anyone's willing to support a newbie I'd like the help! Same as GTthunder, I've read the forum and watched the tutorial videos, just need some advice on next steps. I'm running Star Regional out of SGN on meigs.

Thanks!

Hello,

I am willing to mentor someone, max 2 players. If you are interested just PM me your skype here on the forums, but also the name of the airline and server. I can mentor Swedish, Romanian and English. Also in Danish, Norwegian and French but only if there are no other options.

Hey there,

If anyone's willing to support a newbie I'd like the help! Same as GTthunder, I've read the forum and watched the tutorial videos, just need some advice on next steps. I'm running Star Regional out of SGN on meigs.

Thanks!

I'm willing to try and help you out if you plan on staying on Meigs (I noticed you liquidated your airline). Drop me a PM.

Dear CEO and Presidents of major airlines, =) 

My name is Rickard and Im the new CEO for a new airline called Air Sweden. =) 

Today we flew our premíére flight to GOT and MMX from ARN. =) 

I would love to start talking to other more experienced CEO of other major airlines. And get some tips and pointers how to run a airline. 

I would prefer to have our business meetings over skype. =) Chat or with headset which suits You best. All communications outside Sweden will be in english. :wink:

I play in the riem world. So it would be great if a CEO from a major airline from the same world contacted me, first through in game msg ofc. =) 

Looking forward to get some positive answers from You shortly. =) 

Thanks in advance. =) 

Best Regards, 

Rickard, 

CEO of Air Sweden

 

Hello,

I would be happy to help you as I am Swedish personally (from Arvika in Värmland though I currently live in Malmö) and Swedish is my primary language together with Romanian. I have been running a couple of airlines in Sweden (ingame) aswell. If you want my help could you please PM me your Skype username. I have helped quite a large number of newbies previously as well.

Regards,

Christian Pålsson

I'm sorry to necro and old thread, but if there is anyone available to mentor me on Fornebu I would appreciate it.

Thank you.

Still looking for a teacher/mentor on Aspern or Fornebu, could really use it...

I have read all of the Yukawa threads and watched all of the videos I can find.  Is there somewhere that the mechanics of scheduling are explained to get connecting passengers?

I don't know any other way to find help so forgive the brain dump this post will be....

Scheduling "in waves" doesn't tell me much.  For example, assume as a starting point with no flights at all scheduled for my airline.  Say I want a wave to depart at 0900.  If I understand correctly then if the transfer time for the airport is 1 hr, then I need the earlier wave to arrive as close to 0759 as possible without going over.  This allows for all passengers from the earlier wave enough time to make connections to my 0900 flights.  Generally I can do this, though sometimes 0900 is full and I need to push a flight to 0905.  The "earlier" wave however departs my hub at different times in order to get them returning as close to 0759 as possible.  This seems to prevent say an 0600 wave because of all the different departure times needed to make them arrive back at 0759 or close to that.  

But working forward...assume I can create a wave departing at 0900.  Because they are going to all different locations, the return legs are all different obviously.  What determines when my next "wave" leaves my hub?  Arbitrarily deciding 1300 for example?  Do I base the next wave departure time on the longest flight of the 0900 wave?  Say the minimum connection time on my longest returning flight dictates that those passengers cannot connect until 1400.  Do I then make the next wave 1400 based upon that?  In the beginning with a new airline (and new player) do I need to be rigid that way?  Do I force my entire fleet into a 1400 wave or end up with some at 1300, 1400 etc..

It also ignores slot availability issue at many many airports.  If slotting forces me to push a flight to 1405 does that mess up the entire wave?  Assuming the 1400 2nd wave, is it ok that my shorter flight planes from the 0900 wave sit idle for quite a while waiting on the 1400 wave?

The only way I am able to schedule, is with the specific plane's flight plan screen.  I don't know how to use the "Scheduling" section to set up flights, it always turns into a mess.  How mechanically do vet players schedule?  With the "scheduling" section or per plane?

Do some planes in my fleet operate on different wave times?  0800, 1200, 1600, 2000, 0000, 0400?  Is there a standard "gap" that is best used in waves?  4 hours?  3 hours?

I have also tried to make sense of the north south east west elements of waves.  The wave itself is more complicated than I can seem to master, the east west north south part is way over my head.  

Assuming an 0900 1300 1700 2100 0100 0500 wave schedule.  (Granted this may be all wrong but it's all I can figure out at this point)

Plane A departs 0900 to the north

Plane B departs 0900 to the south

Plane C departs 0900 to the east

Plane D departs 0900 to the west  ??

Should they all go north at 0900 and then south at 1300?  North at 0900 then west at 1300?  Do A and C go north at 0900 while B and D go south at 0900?  

Let's say that Plane A cannot make the 2100 wave because of maintenance ratio and it is done for the day.  Does Plane E take over there at 2100?  Where does Plane A fit in the next morning?  If my hub is 24 hr operation, do I want planes going at all hours adhering to the waves even though it would seem the 0100 flight wouldn't be very popular?  

It would seem that based upon these waves as I understand it, somewhere within the 24 hour period the waves fall apart because to get the 0900 wave where I started above, there won't be a consistent wave time at 0500 or 0600 due to the needs of arriving on time for the 0900 wave?

I have played the game about 6 months and have failed for 6 months.  My current effort on Fornebu, Hadidi Eastern is based at ICN.  This time rather than trying to get waves to work which I haven't been able to do, I just filled the clock with domestic flights as my fleet size allows.  My competitors seem to run what appear to be unfilled flights domestically 24 hours a day, so I am trying that.  As with every other airline I have started and liquidated, I am unable to get a flight to another country that works regardless of airport size.  I have read time and time again the problem is "connections" which is what lead to this exasperated post.  I can see that for the moment my attempted flight to PEK or a destination in Japan don't fill, though my competitors fill or must at least generate a profit.  My price point has no impact, so I get it, they are airlines that have been in existence many years and they have "connections".  I simply cannot figure out how to schedule flights that over time lead to "connections".

Well I have given up I clearly don't know how to schedule correctly.  Can anyone offer me some guidance?  I don't need to know the deepest darkest trade secrets but surely there is a way to help me understand what to do?  I have made another run at an airline based at MIA with a sub hub at RSW on Aspern.

Thanks for any assistance or point me to the thread or video I cannot seem to find which teaches this.

Sent you a PM.

Hi,

waves never work out as you would like. Either there is a slot problem at the other end, or the return flight arrives after the next wave departs. But here's a few hints...

- waves to the north and waves to the south don't have to be at different hours. You can have flights from the north arriving at 5, and connecting to flights to the south at 6.

- if you have a wave every 6 hours, and a return flight takes 8 or 9 hours, give the plane a maintenance pauze between the outbound flight and the return flight.

- waves don't have to be perfect. Passengers will take a transfer flight if they have to wait less than 3 hours. In theory, they wait up to 8 hours... but then the ORS rating of the two combined flights will be low.

- if you have to choose between leaving on time and coming back too late, or leaving too early and coming back on time, check connecting flights at the other side. If you have a good IL partner, your flight will get transfer passengers there.

- our virtual passengers don't care about day or night. Your 01:00 flight will get as many bookings as your 13:00 flight. If they have the same connections of course  ;-)

- if you have multiple flights to the same destination, schedule a few flights on time with your waves, and schedule extra flights in between waves. These flights can give connections to flights that do not fit in the waves.

You don't have to use the same plane for the same destination. Plane A can do a long flight in the morning, followed by two shorter flights. Plane B can start with a short flight, then do the long flight and end the day with another short flight.

Waves and connecting flights are not the only condition for success. They are however important to fill planes that you cannot fill with direct passengers.

And finally, scheduling is not only a matter of waves and connections. It is also a matter of finding where the passengers want to go. If nobody wants to fly to Timbuktu, it won't help if that flight leaves exactly 1 hour and 1 minute after your previous wave arrives in your hub  ;-)

Success with your airline,

Jan

You should determine the number of waves depending on your geographical location. If the majority of your destinations are 6 hours away or closer (return time) then 4 waves a day are possible. If you have many destinations further away, you might want to go for 3 waves only.

And yes, eventually you will run out of slots at your wave times (the arrival times as well as the departure times).

And passengers connect if the connecting flight is less than 150% of the distance of a direct flight. So therefore don't expect a passenger coming from the south, connect through your hub to fly back south again. And passengers can connect through your airport even the connecting time is less than the minimum time, if they can stay in the same aircraft. So coming in from south and continue north (or east to west and vice versa) is best if you don't strictly schedule with waves but back to back.

The wave times, 6 hours or 8 hours depend on

  1. geographic location

  2. the number of destinations you can fly to that are within 6 hours RT, or 8 hours RT.

you can use www.asroutemap.info to check “speed circle” Do not forget to account for turnaround times and minimum connection time in your hub.

Always make sure you also check a multiple (double wave) of 12/16 hours.

Then you have to make a decision which wave style (6/8 hours) bests suits for your hub and destinations you will fly to.

P.S. What is the name of your airline?

P.S. What is the name of your airline?

Mediterranean World Air

Mediterranean World Air

I see you have Haddi Eastern Air on Fornebu ... which airline would you need help with?

I see you have Haddi Eastern Air on Fornebu ... which airline would you need help with?

A kind person has offered to help on Aspern.  So help on Fornebu would be great.  I restarted under guidance with Aspern.  Fornebu just winging it.